To sum it up, me and this girl were really, really close, then one day we had quite a bad argument, and things havnt been the same since.

A so called mate of mine, he likes this girl too, and he basicially in my opinion he abused the situation. He started talking to her non stop, telling her different things about me, even making up stuff about me that i had apparently said about her behind her back. She can't see that though, and they are now very close.

I do not know how close they are, or if they are in a relationship or not.

The girl and I.. weve tried to make things right, but somethings always comes up, the last time we spoke to each other privately was online and she said:

I know you dont mean t upset me, And you dont do it intentionally. I do miss you, course I do but its so hard t just think things will go back t normal.

I know things are better for you now and you're back on track with things but it will never be the same.

I dunno what t do really, about any of itI dont know how t try t look at you differently or how I used to

Or how t stop it hurting when I do think about you <<< that makes me feel like shit

I just dread that you'll start talking t meCos I just think it will go bad, More often than not it does but more cos i expect it to

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I asked her if she wanted to carry on talking and she said she didnt know.

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Now we just talk in groups of 3 or 4 atm online. That guy is ALWAYS there. If things go well then maybe we can be friends again.

I guess im posting this to see what you guys think, is she just saying that? Does she still like me and wants to be like we were? What should i do?

Its unnerrving watching them flirt with each other. Its the guy mostly and he does it all the time when im around, she mostly ignores it though. Is that because she doesnt like it or because she doesnt want to around me?

Or am i just paranoid..

By the look of things, she honestly doesn't know.

It may be that she has feelings for you but from the situation you explained, you seem to argue a lot when you talk and that appears to make her uncomfortable. Maybe this is why she doesn't want to talk to you.

I think if you try to work out why you keep arguing all the time, you can stop, then you can start talking to each other like you used to.

Hope this helps. x

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I've been in similar situations..it really sucks. I just don't talk to that girl anymore..

Looks like you guys really had something..and it started to go bad. It looks like she was hurt and isn't sure if she wants to just move on or try ro make it better. That friend of yours just puts out another decision for her to make, which doesnt help.

You guys just might need some time for things to settle down, after that maybe you can be friends..but who knows if those feelings will still be there.

The guy's a bit of a dick he's obviously trying to make you jealous.
What did you fall out about? You dont have to go into detail just give us a clue it would help if we had some context

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It all began 3 years ago.

I was going through a shit time in and out of school. Bad grades.... bullying.. lack of friends.. you name it i had it.

I couldnt talk to anyone about it, i seen only one way out, suicide.

3 years ago on February 13th i was within 30 minute of hanging myself. I would probably have done it too if it wasnt for one of the few mates i had came round to see me and stopped me.

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I started going out with a girl. We went out for 4 months and i liked her a lot, we had even talked about what i tried to do. The first person i had actually spoken too about it. One night we were at a party and she was pretty drunk. She said she wanted to have sex but i said no because i didnt want to take advantage.

One week later she was with another guy.

That hurt, a lot.

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I hadnt spoken to this girl since then, but last month, on Feb 13th, she sent me a text saying "you should of hung yourself you worthless piece of shit'". It fucking destroyed me, I had no idea why she said that. I still dont.

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2 years ago i met a guy online, and we have become good mates over the years. 1 year ago i met a girl through this guy, and we became very close. People were even asking if we were going out.

As weird as it was. I liked this girl, i liked her a lot. It was the first time i felt something for someone online, and i couldnt explain it. We would of stayed awake until the early hours texting or on MSN or anything.

In the end, i told her how i felt about her, i felt completely shit as soon as i said it in case it would of fucked things up. As it turned out, the other guy had told her a month or 2 before that he liked her too. We talked about it and it turned out that she had feelings for me too but we couldnt do anything about it, Money, time, parents and most of all, we didnt want to hurt the other guy. I was upset but i accepted it.

This happened about 1 week before the 13th.

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On the 14th i told this girl everything about what i tried to do and what my ex did. She helped me get through it and i couldnt thank her hard enough.

What i didnt realise was that she had had an ex of hers who attempted suicide because she broke up with him.

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There was yet another guy, i knew him kinda, some of you do too. Him and this girl were kinda close, but one day he just blanked her completely and didnt speak to her again. She didnt know why and was upset. I had a go at him about it.

He said to me that he tried to commit suicide because of her.

This was 2 days after i had told her what i tried to do.

I was in a fucking state, she knew i was talking to him about it and she knew that he had told me, and i had to tell her. I HAD TO TELL HER THAT KNOWING HER PAST. If i said nothing she wouldve got upset, i didnt know what to do.

I ended up telling her. She went offline as soon as i told her. I hated myself that night, i even said to her that if she didnt want to speak to me again i would understand. I thought she hated me. I said to her "please dont do something you will later regret."

She thought by that i thought she was going to commit suicide. I meant it as by hating me.

I seriously contemplated suicide again that night. In fact, if i hadnt of heard from her, idk what would of happened.

Note: it turned out that he lied to me when he said that.

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I couldnt sleep that night, and ended up texting her for most of the night when she calmed down.

Things were... normal but not normal.

That night, i cant remember what had happened, but i was feeling upset. She said to me "what can i do about it, do you want to try for a relationship when we meet up?"

That threw me, i thought she didnt like me like that anymore. I said to her that i would but only if she wanted too, not because she felt she had too.

We ended up arguing again.

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Since then we have been on and off friendship wise. Sometimes its fine then other times it isnt.

2 weeks ago we didnt talk for a week, started again last week and now again we arent. I still care for her and i dont want to lose her.

During this time the other guy, the one ive known for 2 years has been getting closer and closer to her. At some point they will be together, im sure of it. It took me a long time to accept that.

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I posted this before that. It kinda explains it, sorry for double posting

To me, if you step back from the situation, its a complete mess. You obviously care for this girl, but she doesn't return your affection at all.
Of course because of your history with her its complicated and wont be easy, but you have to let go.
If I were you i would try, if possible, to see this girl less. I don't think she feels comfortable with you around when she's with this other guy so i would back off. Find someone else, who doesn't seem to treat you like shit.

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the girl i care for the and the who is my ex are 2 very different people, in case youve got them confused