Osama Bin Laden Is Back : - "Embrace Islam"

Mayank · 09-10-2007, 09:53 AM

After 3 years, Osama Bin Laden is back. He gave a 30 minute speech addressed to Americans. The video was obtained by american government, NBC news etc.

First Solution : - Osama urges USA to embrace islam if they want the war in Iraq to end.

Second Solution : - Osama invites US to embrace Islam

Is this a serious threat? What do you have to say about it! Debate!

Capt Sasha · 09-10-2007, 02:55 PM

May I know how did the American government came into possession of this video? The statement asking Americans to embrace Islam is too stupid for even Osama Bin Laden. Is it me or is this the fact that the video has too many questions and discrepencies?

You'reAlwaysWrong · 09-10-2007, 03:25 PM

I don't see why anyone outside the conservative echo chamber would care anyway.

Mayank · 09-10-2007, 04:09 PM

Osama boasts about the impact of the 11th sep 2001 attack.

Look at the analysis of NBC News

Quote:

Although U.S. officials said there were "no specific threats" in Osama bin Laden's video, I did see implied threats and calls to action.
Bin Laden suggests that an attack may already be in the planning stage, saying "Muslim blood will not be spilled in vain" and that the "morrow" is near.
Bin Laden goes to great lengths to describe America as the world’s economic, military and political superpower, but then points out how 19 youths were able to "change the compass" of history. Bin Laden is telling a David vs. Goliath story.
This is a message of inspiration, furthering al-Qaida’s transformation from a strictly militant group to one that inspires other radical groups. Bin Laden is telling similar small groups of followers not to be intimidated by the United States' power.
— Richard Engel, NBC Middle East correspondent

Is he just looking for a reason to attack again?

Phuck Buddy · 09-11-2007, 01:55 AM

he urges us, and then invites us.

why does he think we would listen to him? Are we sure this video is authentic? why did he wait till now to say anything, and why that?

Pressed in a Book · 09-11-2007, 02:00 AM

Fake.

UsernameGoesHere · 09-11-2007, 02:29 AM

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People of America: I shall be speaking to you on important topics which concern you, so lend me your ears. I begin by discussing the war which is between us and some of its repercussions for us and you. To preface. I say: despite America being the greatest economic power and possessing the most powerful and up-to-date military arsenal as well, and despite its spending on this war and its army and despite it being the major state influencing the policies of the world, more than the entire world spends on its armies: And being the major state influencing the policies of the world, as if it has a monopoly on the unjust right of veto: Despite all of this, 19 young men were able - by the grace of Allah, the Most High - to change the direction of its compass. And in fact, the subject of the Mujahideen has become an inseparable part of the speech of your leader and the effects and signs are not hidden. People of America: the world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of the tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped. Thus, you elected the Democratic Party for this purpose but the Democrats haven't made a move worth mentioning. On the contrary, they continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there, which has led to the vast majority of you being afflicted with disappointment.
So in answer to the question about the causes of the Democrats' failure to stop the war, I say: they are the same reasons which led to the failure of former president (John F.) Kennedy to stop the Vietnam war.
Those with real power and influence are those with the most capital. And since the democratic system permits major corporations to back candidates, be they presidential or congressional, there shouldn't be any cause for astonishment, and there isn't any, in the Democrats' failure to stop the war.

Osama bin Laden video released | Video | Reuters.com

dagingercode · 09-11-2007, 02:59 AM

well its nearly 9/11 here, in about 12 hours you should expect bombs

Capt Sasha · 09-11-2007, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressed in a Book

Fake.

Thats the first thing that came to my mind. But I guess a few stupid ones would fall for such a far fetched claim hook, line and sinker.

FutureNavyMan08 · 09-11-2007, 07:16 AM

I guess theres more bouts of ignoring things going on. -sigh-. How about the goverment announcing that Bin Laden is now "virtually impotent" in his ability to strike at the US? He's been completely dismissed as a threat. Oops, I think your case just fell into the toilet.

Moving on, I don't know how this tape got to the US. Most likely Al-Jazera, the voice of terrorists, had something to do with it. But I don't know for sure.

UsernameGoesHere · 09-12-2007, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureNavyMan08

I guess theres more bouts of ignoring things going on. -sigh-. How about the goverment announcing that Bin Laden is now "virtually impotent" in his ability to strike at the US? He's been completely dismissed as a threat. Oops, I think your case just fell into the toilet.

Moving on, I don't know how this tape got to the US. Most likely Al-Jazera, the voice of terrorists, had something to do with it. But I don't know for sure.

Osama has lost power over the organization he started. He no longer is giving direct orders to Al Qaeda to attack in Iraq and Afghanistan, he is the inspiration. US strikes early in the war helped to destroy this more organized Al Qaeda, but helped him in the end. A leaderless group is hard to destroy.

Capt Sasha · 09-12-2007, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureNavyMan08

Oops, I think your case just fell into the toilet.

When I said stupid I didn't mean you. But well, you know yourself best, I won't argue against your self-introspections.

Coomey · 09-13-2007, 12:02 AM

No offence to any Muslims but there teachings are slap-dash and the Qa'ran contadicts in many areas. I am not basing my opinions on the fundamentalists, but rather on the Orthodox Muslims. My muslim friends are very lax about Islam as some of the teachings seem like they were made up by a group of two-year olds, not an "all-mighty god".

For example; "No muslim should have contact or relations with a homosexual"
WRONG on its own - Disgusting teaching which makes me slightly prejudice againt Islam.

In an other teaching "all muslims should embrace others as a brother