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Old 03-04-2007, 05:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

If it is so than it actually means that the smaller the vocabulary of a language is the more 'emotionally handicapped' are its speakers...among other things.
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

It's true. That's why babies are so simple.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

I think you can definitely feel and think things you don't have words for. Otherwise other animals would not be able to think or feel anything at all. But if you do have a word for something you can remember and retain it better, and people can communicate it to one another. It's like being able to refer to somebody by name, instead of having to say repeatedly, "you know, that one guy with the long black hair and zits..." or something like that.

Have you read 1984?
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

Yes I actually have, that's what got me thinking about it together with my TOK teacher who has the decided opinon that you cannot feel or think anything you don't have a word for, suggesting that since we speak swedish and he is a native american that he actually can feel and think things we can't...
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

It's a cool idea but it's not totally true.

The way you say things and hear other people say things does have a big effect on the way you think. I think that's why there are so many Christians. Our language barely even allows for talking about a world without a God.

And I'm guessing newspeak doesn't allow for talking about having one.

You got me started thinking about that book... I need to read it again...
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

check out the movie "Waking Life" it's a really good indie film made in 2001 there is a particular scene that deals with this exact idea
i believe that words are confining and we have so many emotions and thoughts that cannot be put into words i'd rather live unrestricted purely by whim that would be beautiful but chaotic
everyone needs some sort of basic language to function orderly in a society no matter how rudimentary the language is
i dont think most of the everyday things we feel have words for them there's not enough letter combinations lol
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check out the movie "Waking Life" it's a really good indie film made in 2001
That's a great movie! Very hard to decipher, but brilliant.

I agree, words are confining and are meant to communicate but can only do so in clumsily broad strokes.
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

i love that movie the best scene/convo between people is the one where ethan hawke is laying in bed with the woman discussing the idea that the entire life we are experiencing is really your older self deceased with the brain activity left looking back on what has happened in your life
i like that idea that there is no such thing as true freedom as everything that you experience is predetermined for you it's something to think about
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

here are the most memorable quotes from waking life curtousy of imdb....

Waking Life (2001) - Memorable quotes

my personal favorite is:
"In short, I think the message here is that we shouuld never write ourselves off or see eachother as a victim of various forces. It's always our descision who we are."
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Re: Do you believe that you can't feel or think any thing you don't have a word for?

ok sorry i know i'm posting like crazy to this thread but i just thought of something similar to the topic

it's kinda like the question:
If a tree falls in the woods and know one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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ok sorry i know i'm posting like crazy to this thread but i just thought of something similar to the topic

it's kinda like the question:
If a tree falls in the woods and know one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Yes!
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