Do You Consider Yourself a Feminist? - Page 3

Assaultrifle · 05-03-2008, 08:50 AM

also, i think women aged 18-25 that are out of high school should not be exempt from the draft.

apollo-might · 05-03-2008, 09:04 AM

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also, i think women aged 18-25 that are out of high school should not be exempt from the draft.

I agree.

But I would flee anyways (well, depending on the war) and I wouldn't think any less of myself for it.

Assaultrifle · 05-03-2008, 09:11 AM

if you are talking about fleeing during combat well if you try to run away during combat your commander can legally shoot you dead and it is his duty to.

why would you flee anyway?

apollo-might · 05-03-2008, 09:17 AM

I meant the country, before I could get taken. I would just run (not run, obviously) to Canada or Mexico and hide.

I'm not going to stand for that. I won't be forced to fight for something if I don't believe in it. I will take control of MY life and leave the country.

(I just noticed you're in AZ, which part?)

.Angelique. · 05-03-2008, 10:13 AM

Damn I never shave my legs. Come feel.

Assaultrifle · 05-03-2008, 10:39 AM

oh ok. i would fight anyway. im really patriotic. plus i love the military. plus i want action and the adrenaline rush

im in phoenix btw

apollo-might · 05-03-2008, 10:45 AM

LOL no way? Me too. North Central?

I respect you for that, I do. But it's just not the person I am.

stratosfear · 05-03-2008, 02:25 PM

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Before you go on and disect what I have said, why don't you try to understand my overall point? Btw, I already have looked up "brainwashing" and "propoganda." Why don't you? My main point is there there are both anti-female and anti-male sentiments in America; they coexist. If you refuse to belive that, then you probably are taking into account 3rd world women into the picture, which many people unknowingly do.

Anti-male laws which are what exactly, male teachers not being allowed to put their hands up female students' skirts? And I don't really agree with mandatory millitary service in the first place, so I'm not gonna argue about that.

Maybe you need to look those words up again, or learn to use them correctly.

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one of the biggest reasons why women don't get paid as much as men is because they are the ones that get pregnant and have to worry about such matrimonial affairs much more than men do. So, in that case one can but not always, argue that women don't perform "the same." I want to have children one day, and this is fine with me to not get paid as much as a man who dedicates much more time to his professions. It is completely fair.

Yes, many women get pregnant, but I think it's unfair that women who want to have families (or indeed women who don't; many employers specifically avoid hiring women of a childbearing age), should be penalised and paid less if they're doing the same job.

xJennyx · 05-03-2008, 10:49 PM

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Anti-male laws which are what exactly, male teachers not being allowed to put their hands up female students' skirts? And I don't really agree with mandatory millitary service in the first place, so I'm not gonna argue about that.

Maybe you need to look those words up again, or learn to use them correctly.

Yes, many women get pregnant, but I think it's unfair that women who want to have families (or indeed women who don't; many employers specifically avoid hiring women of a childbearing age), should be penalised and paid less if they're doing the same job.

That male teacher never put his hands anywhere near the girl. He merely saw the girl take papers out of her skirt. The funny thing is, if the male teacher had reported this to a next door female teacher and then if the female teacher had reported the girl for cheating, it would have been legally okay. There is one anti-male law for you; the incident got him in deep trouble for merely stopping a student from cheating.

About the words we are disputing over; why don't you look up the word "solipsism" and maybe we can be on the same level?

Your 3rd argument. In a strictly feminist view, you can argue that these pregnant women are being "penalized" for being paid less. In another point of view, the "non-pregnant" men who can work more efficiently w/o as many burdens would be "penalized" for being paid the same as a woman who can't ultimately contribute more in the end. That's just nature, and if you ask me, I'm pretty comfortable with it.

Cj · 05-04-2008, 06:46 AM

Don't believe in Feminism or "Males rule the World" shit, we all should have equal rights, the fact is without females we'd have a pretty slim chance of being here - or in a fictional world we'd all end up pirates, in more ways than one.

The 1820's are long gone, fuck going into all that political shit. It's gonna fuck up my high, but one thing i know is, females are still disrespected and shown upon as a weaker inferior sex, its pathetic and only shows males as an ignorant race.

When i meet a girl who hasn't made me feel like a man in one way or another, ill tell yall. they clean up our shit, put up with our grumpy ass attitude, give birth and show that love for us - only a female can.

the principal is; Respect is givin where respect is deserved, why should that not apply to the opposite sex?

stratosfear · 05-05-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by xJennyx

That male teacher never put his hands anywhere near the girl. He merely saw the girl take papers out of her skirt. The funny thing is, if the male teacher had reported this to a next door female teacher and then if the female teacher had reported the girl for cheating, it would have been legally okay. There is one anti-male law for you; the incident got him in deep trouble for merely stopping a student from cheating.

Oh, I see. I think I misunderstood your discription then. Do you have a link to the article?

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About the words we are disputing over; why don't you look up the word "solipsism" and maybe we can be on the same level?

That's irrelevant; I only suggested you looked them up because imo, you were using them wrongly. Using big words doesn't make you look clever if you use them in the wrong way.
"The way that women like you automoatically "pounce" and condemn issues concerning males doing something wrong to women while automatically dismissing claims of females doing unjustice upon males can be considered brainwashing."
^ What you described there isn't brainwashing.

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Originally Posted by xJennyx

Your 3rd argument. In a strictly feminist view, you can argue that these pregnant women are being "penalized" for being paid less. In another point of view, the "non-pregnant" men who can work more efficiently w/o as many burdens would be "penalized" for being paid the same as a woman who can't ultimately contribute more in the end. That's just nature, and if you ask me, I'm pretty comfortable with it.

The amount of time someone is able to work doesn't always equal the amount of skill they have. There are many women who are commited to their jobs despite having kids and I think it's unfair if a woman is paid less for the work they do for simply being female.

ByTor190 · 06-02-2008, 10:42 AM

I'm humanist before I'm anything.

MRA2 · 06-23-2008, 03:17 AM

I'm a masculist.