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04-20-2007, 08:04 PM
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GOD: real or fake?
Hey everyone!
Here is a question for you: Is God real or not? 
Write some evidence for your answer if you have one.
This question is open for all religious/scientific/actual/fact/historical answers.
Thank you for your time! 
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04-21-2007, 03:58 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
God is fake because:
1. There is no evidence of his existence or reason (beyond pragmatism) to believe he exists;
2. Although the majority of the world believes in a god or gods there are several clear motives for them to believe this whether it is true or not.
3. Depending on how you define "God" he may logically contradict the world we see around is. For example if you believe that God is both all-powerful and all-loving, then you run into the problem of evil.
So in brief:
1. No evidence
2. Wishful thinking
3. Contradictions
I list all three to be thorough, but the first is sufficient to show that God does not exist or at least is highly unlikely to exist.
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04-22-2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
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Originally Posted by godless_musician
God is fake because:
1. There is no evidence of his existence or reason (beyond pragmatism) to believe he exists;
2. Although the majority of the world believes in a god or gods there are several clear motives for them to believe this whether it is true or not.
3. Depending on how you define "God" he may logically contradict the world we see around is. For example if you believe that God is both all-powerful and all-loving, then you run into the problem of evil.
So in brief:
1. No evidence
2. Wishful thinking
3. Contradictions
I list all three to be thorough, but the first is sufficient to show that God does not exist or at least is highly unlikely to exist.
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Exactly right.
But even being right, some people are going to believe anyway, because they were raised to or they just simply have to believe in something or for some other unsupported reason. But for the people who actually see that there is no eveidence and its just as you said wishful thinking it is alot easier to argue with truth and facts than belief with lack of evidence.
but yea I personally believe you are right, but thats just me.  thanks
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04-22-2007, 01:13 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
I never belived in God so the idea of god existing or not never cropped up. We are brought up to think with an open mind and logically rather than get guided by invisible beings who control our emotions. God is just an idea, nothing more.
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04-22-2007, 01:32 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
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Originally Posted by YohanesMC
Hey everyone!
Here is a question for you: Is God real or not? 
Write some evidence for your answer if you have one.
This question is open for all religious/scientific/actual/fact/historical answers.
Thank you for your time! 
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its called "faith" i think this is subject matter based in your own beliefs. and it comes from religios training you are brought up with
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04-22-2007, 01:36 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
The definition of God is rather nebulous and subjective and is, despite any effort on the individual's part, always influenced by society. Until a clear and non-contradicting definition can be established, this question cannot be properly answered to satisfy people's curiocity.
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04-22-2007, 02:03 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
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Originally Posted by jnifw3nloi
The definition of God is rather nebulous and subjective and is, despite any effort on the individual's part, always influenced by society. Until a clear and non-contradicting definition can be established, this question cannot be properly answered to satisfy people's curiocity.
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The definition of "life" is similarly elusive and yet people don't hesitate to say that a human is alive and a rock is not. Although grey areas exist (is a virus alive?) a "clear and non-contradicting definition" is not needed in most cases. People who think one is often make me wonder if they are simply delaying a resolution of the issue by trying to make it more difficult than it is. The fact is that God--whatever culture or religion he is described in--is an imaginary idea. He is not real. Even the amorphous "something higher" that Deists et al. believe in is completely arbitrary and without evidence.
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04-22-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
First you have to define "god" before we can answer...and the fact that most people can't even define it, but will tell you they believe in it anyway...says a lot. Its pretty stupid to say you believe in something while at the same time saying you have no idea what it is.
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04-22-2007, 09:53 AM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
Hunnie, you cant find that on a Forum.
You cant find it in books somtimes or even in a church.
You have to find it in what you truly believe.
That's what a god is all about.
Having something of a higher force to believe in.
So there is no need for proof.
You believe; thus there is.
Do I believe?
Yes.
Do I attend services?
Not usually.
Does it matter?
No.
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04-22-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
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Originally Posted by Strawberry_Wine
Hunnie, you cant find that on a Forum.
You cant find it in books somtimes or even in a church.
You have to find it in what you truly believe.
That's what a god is all about.
Having something of a higher force to believe in.
So there is no need for proof.
You believe; thus there is.
Do I believe?
Yes.
Do I attend services?
Not usually.
Does it matter?
No.
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I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
God is real and he is made of pasta.
I believe, therefore it's true. Do you feel his noodly appendage upon you, sinner?
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04-22-2007, 12:51 PM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
i say god can b real and fake..so people love him and some poeple dont..get over that fact because everyone is diffrent and has diffrent belives
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04-22-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
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i say god can b real and fake..so people love him and some poeple dont..get over that fact because everyone is diffrent and has diffrent belives
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1. I can't love God or not love him because he doesn't exist.
2. I won't get over the fact that religion exists because I consider it harmful and want to do my best to put a dent in it.
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04-22-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
Well, this is going to make me sound kina stupid, but...I don't care. I personally believe more in the goddess than the god, but i still believe in both. But if they aren't real, then..so what? It gives me a nice little feeling that there might be someone up there making sure that life isn't just going in random directions with no reason for anything or anyone, but if it turns out that we're really just cosmic mistakes and that all we belive in religion and fate and all that is fake....then so what? In the end it doesn't really matter, what matters is what you think.
Oh, and btw, I like having knowledge in the different gods and goddesses because....it makes for good lit.  haha I love useing a war between Lilith (my favorite goddess) and Yahweh as a major plot point in a story that I'm working on. Though I know it's going to offend lotsa people because....guess who wins. 
Last edited by WriterChick; 04-22-2007 at 06:00 PM.
Reason: I'm an idiot who can't spell...... :p
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04-22-2007, 07:33 PM
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Re: GOD: real or fake?
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Originally Posted by godless_musician
1. I can't love God or not love him because he doesn't exist.
2. I won't get over the fact that religion exists because I consider it harmful and want to do my best to put a dent in it.
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I dont think that is fair. I strongly respect your belief, but in no way should religion be pushed away from the world. To some people that is all they have. Now no the other hand to some it is all they can see. But it is always nice to have something to belong too, to know someone to watching over you. Makes you feel not so alone.
And on your noodle god.
I would think it perfectly ok.
I'm Italian.
I'm like made from noodles.
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04-22-2007, 11:48 PM
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