The Extremests

H-AuB10.13.29 · 05-22-2007, 12:08 AM

These days in the middle east, we're witnessing a lot of terrorists attacks inIraq and Lebanon( MY DEAR COUNTRY

). There's fath al Islam attacking the Lebanese army, and shiite organizations and Sunni organizations( of course the extremests only) are bombing the Iraq and killing its children./

Yesterday in Lebanon, the lebanese army was attacked by Fath al Islam after intending to catch the robbers who robbed Medbank a day before and exploded 2 buses months before..and the confict is still going on here!
a lot of civillians are being killed by this organization, and we're hoping that the army ends this!
This all started in lebanon after 14 february 2005 12:55 PM, after Rafiq Hariri was murded(The one who built lebanon after the civil war), the syrian and iranian alliance tried to destruct Lebanon by killing its leaders who know the plan of this alliance...and now 20 may 2007, the conflict between our army and the syrian-iranian alliance has begun..
And I'm seeing what the extremest are doing to us!they're killing innocent civillians, and taking over our amy's positions, and taking over Lebanon, who once was The Switzerland of the East..
so Let us know, what are your opinions about extremests and about what's happening in the middle east!

jnifw3nloi · 05-23-2007, 04:00 AM

The extremists are unsavoury. One should try to negotiate, to reason to make peace. One should try to exhaust every possible option before one resorts to violence. But if they are not interested in negotiation or resolution of any kind, force must be applied, for the benefit of all.

Capt Sasha · 05-23-2007, 08:23 PM

Seriously, religious fanatics, whether Islamists or Jews or Christian facists they are all a pain in the world. Today they are Islamists and Jews, a few centuries back it was Crusade 1, Cursade 2 and Inquisition, the latter being the most notorious against countries which were not ready to accept Abrahamic religions. Putting the deaths due to religious beliefs together, it beats all other forms of death even if natural deaths are taken into count.

Best idea is just like ours, throw religion in a dustbin and live with our heads. We don't need a moral compass, each of us is born with human ethics which are shaped by human values and standards.

H-AuB10.13.29 · 05-23-2007, 08:39 PM

Well. I don't think that we should just throw religion, but we need to have consciousness to whether we are bothering people with it or we're using its principals to make a better world.For example, terrorists are using Islam to kill people, when Islam is all about love and respect to the others, that's how Mohammad used to invite people to Islam, so they defintely don't have any relation what so ever with Islam. and I'm pretty sure that there's no religion in the world whose purpose is to harm people.

jnifw3nloi · 05-24-2007, 03:57 AM

Christian conservative fundamentalist evangelicals. Those people live to harm others.

FutureNavyMan08 · 05-24-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jnifw3nloi

Christian conservative fundamentalist evangelicals. Those people live to harm others.

I notice its not christians walking into Isreal, Iraq, and Afghanistan and proceeding to blow themselves up in the nearest marketplace. So, are you going to accuse me of hateing Muslims next?

jnifw3nloi · 05-24-2007, 08:36 AM

Depends, are you a Christian conservative fundamentalist evangelical?

jnifw3nloi · 05-24-2007, 09:04 AM

People like Falwell, these types of evangelicals are not better than terrorists. They are even worse, they teach our children, corrupt our future and lead crusades to other lands in the name of democracy.

H-AuB10.13.29 · 05-24-2007, 03:38 PM

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I notice its not christians walking into Isreal, Iraq, and Afghanistan and proceeding to blow themselves up in the nearest marketplace. So, are you going to accuse me of hateing Muslims next?

I don't encourage this kind of behaviors, but excuse me, I think that Israel is the one who accupied Palestine, and America is the one who accupied Iraq and Afghanistan, so now u're attacking Palestine and Iraq and Afghanistan for being accupied??I'm sorry but that does not make any sense.

I hate seeing an american soldier in Iraq dying just as much as I hate seeing tons of children killed by that soldier, cuz I know that this soldier has a duty to do, and probebly he has a family, but the iraqis have families too, and they need to protect them.

Capt Sasha · 05-25-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FutureNavyMan08

I notice its not christians walking into Isreal, Iraq, and Afghanistan and proceeding to blow themselves up in the nearest marketplace. So, are you going to accuse me of hateing Muslims next?

Christians have over and above exhausted their quota of killings. Do you know anything about the two crusades, a few inquisitions and the Nazi holocaust?

And talking about blowing themselves, if I were to drop a mortar on your house and eliminate your entire family, what would you do? Assume that the courts do not listen to your plea as there is a racial campaign against your race.

The Zionists are as bad as the Islamist terrorists because of their hot-bloodedness and extreme tendency for death and destruction. US is a despot to defy world opinion, UN sanctions and unashamedly support a despotic occupier.

FutureNavyMan08 · 05-25-2007, 12:57 AM

Sorry H-AuB, I was not talking to you. I was referring rather to the naive comments made by jnifw3nloi. I understand your position and your reasoning for what you are saying. However, keep in mind that US and UK troops are responsible for far fewer civillian deaths, and certainly are not targeting civillians on purpose. The insurgency has made it a point to attack when US troops are distributing candy to children, ensureing as many innocent losses as possible while the soldiers try to decide whether or not to fire back.

H-AuB10.13.29 · 05-25-2007, 01:18 AM

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The insurgency has made it a point to attack when US troops are distributing candy to children, ensureing as many innocent losses as possible while the soldiers try to decide whether or not to fire back.

I remember when that happened, and that really pissed me off! and u should know that those who attacked the US troops and the children are not real muslims!Even if they say so, that does not make them muslims! cuz these behaviors are forbiden in the Quraan, and there are proofs.
Plus, no true muslim would accept those terrorists to mess up with this religion, or anyreligion what so ever, cuz Islam is the religion of moderation!

FutureNavyMan08 · 05-25-2007, 02:56 AM

I agree fully. Every text can be perceived in many different ways, and many have taken the Qu'ran (sp?) to an extreme degree. However, muslim riots breaking out in Turkey (resulting in the death of several people) over a controversial cartoon prove that the extremists are not limited to the mid-east. If Christians, for example, rioted at every controversial cartoon, then the world would be very chaotic indeed. I beleive it is up to the linguists (thoose who specialize in language) to figure out exactly which word(s) in the Qu'ran should be changed. I don't think moderate Muslims would mind that, forgive me if I'm wrong.

jnifw3nloi · 05-26-2007, 04:27 AM

Naive? I am far from naive. Please do not try and pass you lack of knowledge as my naevity. Conservative Christians are becoming a thorn in the side of mankind. They always preach about the evils of "alternative" lifestyles and the evils of the pagans and other such peoples. They creat tensions, they creat conflicts. While they may not directly aid the war efforts, they act to inflame public opinion. Their lies, told all too often, have become truths to many.