The old thread went the dodo's way after some immature members decided to hijack it and make it an "I hate all those who don't like Americans" thread.

So we come back to the discussion and slandering is strictly not allowed. If you can't discuss something intelligently by quoting facts backed up with cold logic and credible sources, please refrain from coming in this thread.

If you make a fool yourself be prepared to have your view challenged and if you try insults, be prepared to be insulted and mocked in return. Thats the rule of the game and no profanities allowed.

Now lets get going.

What makes you think this thread will differ from the last? It will consist of the same people, same topic and same debate. This is pointless.

I thought you had ignored me. Apparently not, have you got no will power or is it you developed cold feet at the moment?

Keep to topic and don't send your friends to mess up this forum, trolling and hacking is illegal even by your federal laws. Trying to mess up discussions by dibious means is very low thing to do, not to mention stupid in the internet.

Hallow threats and poor english. Oh yah... Americans > Germans. Remember WW2?

That is a warning and not a threat. Take it as you will. Second don't be too happy about my chance spelling error in English, can you speak any of the languages of mine or nay of the language I do, besides English?

By the way what is the big deal about Germany being weaker than US? Try Congo or Nigeria, US would look better in front of those third world countries.

Third, yes I remember World War 2. And we also remember we brought down the Third Reich and we destroyed Hitler. US was scared of Japan and wanted our help during the Yalta Conference. Tsk tsk....scaredy cats.

Fourth, don't be a troll, which is what you are doing in this thread.

To get back on track: Yes. We are stupid. Americans are more ignorant than stupid, I believe. We aren't as widely educated as, say, Europeans. Americans still refuse to get with the program and become more worldly. In a way, were isolationists. Americans, or I should say, American education, weather that be mass media, schooling, or things of cultural nature are all concentrated on America. Not the world. We are rased to think inside the box and aren't widely encouraged to be open and worldly (for lack of better adjectives) We are also not required to learn as much in our schools as other major countries are.

I try to think that this thread was not created for the purpose of putting down Americans, but for the purpose of showing them the truth. Yes, the vast majority of Americans may be very stupid and exceedingly proud, at times, but if they realize it and work to better themselves they will not remain such for long.
For the benefit of all mankind, put aside your egos and see the truth.

I do have you on my ignored list. However, I can still choose to see a post of yours. I merely blocked you because you kept insulting everything in site.
You don't make bad points. It's just that some are way over the top, and some of your logic is flawed.


A.) I was on topic.
B.) Who said I sent anybody? The only guy I knew was Vessol.
C.) Hacking? What are you talking about?
D.) As long as you don't resort to more insults, I'll respond to your posts. You respect me, I respect you. It's simple.

Well, the majority of our country is Christian. Need I say more?

I can easily overide your ignore but I chose that because I wanted you to get lost. I do not really appreciate you bringing trolls to hack and spam this forum because you lost an argument.

My sarcasm is better than you points, none of which are logically or factually accurate.

How relevant is Al Gore's possible victory or my username/avatar to this topic?

There are strong evidences to suggest you or FutureNavyMan sent the trolls who posted obscenities in this forum and destroyed posts in the deleted topic of this subject. Could you explain why would the trolls who are American, would target one forum and one topic, most of all?

Explained above. You are taking this personally it seems that you bring foul mouthed individuals and hackers, you need to grow up a little bit if you haven't yet.

Actually it is complicated as you did things which are undoing of a person in a forum discussion. Unless you prove you deserve respect as you think you do, you will have no respect from me or from any of the civilised members.

Where did this guy get hackers from? Clearly its not the only thing the he's pulled out of "there", but still, that seems a bit far fetched and unsubstantiated. I suppose he can make up whatever he wants since he'll just delete and change your posts, maybe even remove himself from your ignore (since god knows that he's the fountain of wisdom...). Anyway, he's to ignore and all things ignorant (thats for you).

There are two types of ignoring. Pushing the "ignore" option, or ignoring everything you type. You can overide that? I doubt it.Don't make statments in which you have no idea what you're talking about. So far, you've shown you have limited understanding of our electoral college. You've said we have a crappy democracy, when it wasn't a pure one to begin with. You flat out lied about the Atomic Bombs dropped on Japan.
So, don't tell me my points suck, when half of yours either don't make sense, or are just plain lies.A.) Al Gore winning the majority of the country's vote showed that a president can win without the majority of the country liking him. What part of this do you have a hard time understanding?

B.) I never said anything about your Avatar of username. Don't bring in points that have nothing to do with me. Take it up with the person who said them.And what evidence would that be?
By the way, Vessol was posting in other topics, not just this one.
Also, hackers, while being stupid mentally, have to be pretty smart physically. Thanks for that, that would be a plus for us.
I never sent anyone to hack anything, if that's what you're implying. Foul mouthed? Are you mad!? I wouldn't be talking if I were you.
Considering the only responses I get from you seem to be insults, I would say you also need to "grow up." Needless to say, this is going around in circles again. Which "things" did I do exactly?
Come to think of it, you've asked me for evidence of your insults, profanity etc. Yet you've done no proof for yourself of mine.
The only person I've ever disrespected on here is you, nobody else. I respected you the first fair amount of posts, until the amount of garbage you threw became pathetic.
Yes, it's needed. America believes in a higher power (the majority of it) therefore, we're stupid? HUH?

Well, there have been studies/evidence that shows that the less religion, the higher intelligence. Many European countries have much better education than the US, and thus are much less religious.

For the record, though, my post was half sarcastic.

I had nothing to do with any hackers or trollers, the idea is laughable. Personally, I see a desperate attempt to point fingers and get rid of a foe. A bit sad, really.

Unless you can offer VERIFIABLE studies about how Americans are less intelligent than everyone else, you are wasting everyones time with an unfounded accusation. And an increasing majortiy of Americans are not religous, I am astounded that anyone could argue that latter. Look at common culture and mass media, thats all the evidence of that you need.