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Old 07-04-2008, 07:52 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Re: Abortion

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Its a natural right. unless hes out in our world moving in our environment and not in a stomach. he doesn't have rights.
So passing through the vaginal canal gives it rights? The fetus is in our world. If it wasn't, the fetus wouldn't be existing. The fetus moves with the mother in its environment. A mother’s womb is an "environment" in "our world."
Not sure how you reached a conclusion where a being that is surrounded by fluids and protective tissue doesn't deserve rights and isn't in our environment, but whatever fits you best.
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get over it your not a girl so you wouldn't understand.
Right, so you're basically telling me first degree murderers shouldn't be put in prison (or put to death) because "we don't understand how they feel?" The same can be said for rapists, child abusers and drunk drivers.

By your same argument, you're also not a female, so your opinion would be void as well.

There are countless woman, who went through pregnancy, that are anti-abortion in all forms. People who also look at the facts and not an emotional of physical standpoint of something are generally better at making laws from the start.
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Its a girl at my school who was raped and she has to keep the baby because her parents don't ant her to have an abortion. Thats why i say Its the mothers choice who is a MAN to say abortion is wrong.
And the mother? You said her parents forced her to keep it, which means the mother also did (a female); a mother who gave birth to the very person who will be forced to keep that baby.

Just so you know, I'm pro-choice when it comes to rape.

Your last sentence made no sense whatsoever.
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all the guy can do is ask her not to its her opinion you just seem really needy if your 14 and you got a girl pregnant and you want the baby. You just seem too needy.
Alright, you really need to start clarifying more. Making out what you're trying to say is harder than trying to rebut your arguments.

Too needy? Sorry to disappoint you, but the majority of people who are against abortion believe the fetus is just like any other human, only at the first stages of human life. To say somebody is needy when they want to save a human in its first stages of life is pretty selfish and arrogant.
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Re: Abortion

I wouldn't say I'm for abortion, but depending on the situation, I'm not neccessarily against it.

If a woman (or child) is raped and ends up pregnant, I can't even imagine how scary it would be. You're pregnant with a child you didn't want from a father you don't know and who won't help support you through the pregnancy. I don't know that I would be able to handle that!

But if a couple, whether it be a two teenagers dating or married adults, have sex and they get pregnant, then I'm against abortion. If you are in a situation where you chose to have sex and you know you can get pregnant, I think that would be bad to get an abortion because it was your choice in the first place. Unless problems arise later on into the pregnancy where it's risking either the baby's life or the mother's life.

According to the Christian religion, abortion is considered murder, which obviously is bad, but I think that if you are a Christian and you get an abortion you could ask God for forgiveness. If I were ever raped and got pregnant, as I sit here and type this I would say I would get an abortion, but unless I were actually in that situation (which I pray I never will be), I can't really say what I'd do myself.

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According to the Christian religion, abortion is considered murder, which obviously is bad, but I think that if you are a Christian and you get an abortion you could ask God for forgiveness.
The Bible never really mentions abortion. Whether you decide if it is a sin or not is whether you decide that killing the foetus is murder.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:18 AM   #154 (permalink)
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The Bible never really mentions abortion. Whether you decide if it is a sin or not is whether you decide that killing the foetus is murder.
I believe there are a couple verses in Psalms that mention a baby being active and joyful in the womb, but I don't remember the exact phrase. Whether that really counts as "anti-abortion" is fairly subjective.
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Old 07-05-2008, 12:54 AM   #155 (permalink)
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Re: Abortion

Tes, God is pro life he knew each one of us before we were in the woumb he has a plan for each of us if you like I can show where it says that. that he is pro life I mean.
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