This is wat goes on in atheist's minds

Anonymous1 · 07-04-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FSM

ah OK now i get it so i can take part

all the ones of animals can be explained by natural selection, no god needed.

sun can be explained by newtons gravitation theory and einsteins nuclear theory. It is not complex it is a ball of buring gas

pyramid, mountain one. geology techtonic plates explain it

The earth one is the hardest explain - simply because it isn't easy. Suns/stars create tonnes of energy which via nuclear fusion can form denser elements. The most stable element is lead. All elements denser than it are likely to undergo fission those lighter than it to undergo fusion. Clumps stick together combine with other lumps till you have a big ball. A planet. Hydrogen off the sun combine with the oxygen caught gravitationally by the planet to form water. Plate techtonics give the continents its look, the blue being the ocean, the white clouds or snow/ice, yellow sand and the green caused by life created via Abiogenesis and then evolving to gain its green colour so it can absorb light.

All of these things which you have put down to coincidence can be explained by science and tested. God is probably the poorest answer you can get to why it was created because there is no evidence behind it. God is even less likely than the FSM because at least his noodliness is backed up by a slither of poor evidence, which is better than nothing.

There is plenty of evidence behind God, just look on islamic websites or use google, if you did watch the video like you said, you would see that natural selecton is just a theory and has no evidence

Zen · 07-04-2009, 12:41 AM

Theory has a different definition in science.

A theory, in the scientific sense of the word, is an analytic structure designed to explain a set of empirical observations. A scientific theory does two things:

it identifies this set of distinct observations as a class of phenomena, and
makes assertions about the underlying reality that brings about or affects this class.

Anonymous1 · 07-04-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zen

Theory has a different definition in science.

A theory, in the scientific sense of the word, is an analytic structure designed to explain a set of empirical observations. A scientific theory does two things:

it identifies this set of distinct observations as a class of phenomena, and
makes assertions about the underlying reality that brings about or affects this class.

a theory is also an opinion, and unproven, and the opposite of fact.

Zen · 07-04-2009, 12:43 AM

But not in the way we're using it now. We're using its scientific connotation.

Dr.Carter · 07-04-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous1

natural selecton is just a theory and has no evidence

Not quite.

If it had no evidence, it would be a guess.

Little evidence? In the intellectual community we call that an educated guess.

However, theories on the other hand often have significant research done before reaching a level of widespread acceptance like the theory of natural selection has. To say it has no evidence is wrong, to say it has little evidence is an understatement. It really only lacks concrete proof.

kite114 · 07-04-2009, 01:21 AM

I wouldn't call natural selection just a theory. It's a well known and respected theory that's taught in schools.

LuklaAdvocate · 07-04-2009, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zen

And religious people think an invisible man did it for fun.

Most religious people don't believe in an "invisible man." If you want to hold a credible debate, don't throw around caricature remarks.

Similarly, most religious people don't believe god did it for "fun."

Zen · 07-04-2009, 02:11 AM

When he takes the argument seriously, I will.

Don't get high and mighty. It was an exaggeration.

LuklaAdvocate · 07-04-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Zen

When he takes the argument seriously, I will.

Don't get high and mighty. It was an exaggeration.

Looks as if you were fairly certain of your statement to me.

You see, when you insult somebody, you try to limit your insults to them; and not everybody else who is religious.

Zen · 07-04-2009, 02:36 AM

Haha, mkay.

Se7en · 07-04-2009, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous1

atheists refuse to believe there is a designer and creator to the most balanced, complex and accurate natural systems in the universe.

I'm not one for debating but I would say I'm an Atheist but I don't refuse to believe there's a god, I just don't see the point in believing in one. Most the religions I've seen, even briefly taught they only seem to be blind and restrict their own lives, especially the Islamic religion (No offense, its only because its the only religion that's blown in my face at the moment and it seriously doesn't look cool at all.)

Anonymous1 · 07-04-2009, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattster

I'm not one for debating but I would say I'm an Atheist but I don't refuse to believe there's a god, I just don't see the point in believing in one. Most the religions I've seen, even briefly taught they only seem to be blind and restrict their own lives, especially the Islamic religion (No offense, its only because its the only religion that's blown in my face at the moment and it seriously doesn't look cool at all.)

That means you don't know what the islamic religion is about and you just judged it by common stereotypes and false rumors and accusations from other atheists, Islam is something beautiful if you get to learn about it and not just listen to what every other atheist says.

Se7en · 07-04-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous1

That means you don't know what the islamic religion is about and you just judged it by common stereotypes and false rumors and accusations from other atheists, Islam is something beautiful if you get to learn about it and not just listen to what every other atheist says.

Yeah but, I do look at Islamic people and I've seen things on the TV (They are probably false but still) and the way women have to wear veils and walk behind like their partner or what ever it is (I actually saw this in my own town) its kind of wrong in my eyes. To treat the woman as if she is below you, obviously I won't know as much as you but I still think my own things and not follow a book. I just don't see the point, which in your eyes will make me sound ignorant but neither of us can change each others opinions.

Anonymous1 · 07-04-2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattster

Yeah but, I do look at Islamic people and I've seen things on the TV (They are probably false but still) and the way women have to wear veils and walk behind like their partner or what ever it is (I actually saw this in my own town) its kind of wrong in my eyes. To treat the woman as if she is below you, obviously I won't know as much as you but I still think my own things and not follow a book. I just don't see the point, which in your eyes will make me sound ignorant but neither of us can change each others opinions.

That's what i mean, a women doesn't have to wear the veil, she just has to wear hijab, and she has the choice if she wants she may choose not to put it, but the qur'aan says to put it so nobody would look at her as a property.

DamnImGood · 07-04-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sasha

Why, you can't help insulting?

Pretty sad and pathetic you're trying to pick a fight in this thread. Take a look around and see who's been doing the insulting and who's offered a well thought out argument.