Congressman Brad Sherman admits explosives found in dust of World Trade Center


No comment... try debunking this.

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There is one major flaw in ALL of these half witted conspiracies is that there is no proof of any of the "evidence."


A half dozen testimonies from people who thought they heard this or thought they saw this in all the confusion is not proof. A mad scientist working in his garage can not be relied upon to provide decent evidence, and the problem with most low budget "scientific" evidence is that they do their tests, then they make an assumption based on what results they get, or get the amounts of a substance seriously wrong.


If you look for a conspiracy, you will always find one, there is always evidence to proove things, i bet if i decided there was fairies living in my house, i could find "some" evidence to support that theory, all the evidence would be bollocks and prove nothing but people would still believe it because there are always gullible people who believe some evidence undeniably proves a hypothesis.


I could go on all day about this but i live in the real world so im going to leave you with this:

It doesnt make the slightest bit of difference what you believe, whether you believe that the government destroyed the towers, whether you believe al qaeda did it, whether you believe the men in black came, blew it up for the lulz, then neurolized everyone into believing al qaeda did it, but it didnt work on you because you had your tin foil hat on at the time.

All that matters is what the government says happened, because like it or not you live in what is effectively a dictatorship.

The government does everything it does because it needs to, or see's it as the best route, if it blows up its own people to make an excuse to invade someone else, then thats no big deal, because a few thousand people out of millions, is not a big deal really is it? think of the big picture, YOU DONT MATTER.

They can do whatever they want because they know the majority only cares about living their ignorant, cozy little lives, and will never do anything because doing something would jeoperdise that way of life.

You might aswell just shut the fuck up and listen to what the government says and believe it, because coming up with your own theory and trying to bring the government down, is an unfortunate waste of your life, because even if it was undeniably proved that the government blew up the towers, it would be a case of "big woop, what you gonna do?" because no one would do anything, because they know their happy little lives would be much more difficult should they boot the government out of power.

You cant fight the government, unfortunately for people like you, its like a band of mentally incapable ants fighting a very, very smart ant eater.

There is also little to no evidence of Al-Qaeda or another terrorist organization was behind the attacks either.

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there is alot more evidence of that than there is of the conspiracy theories, most conspiracy theorists have gotten ALL their evidence from other conspiracy theorists, and havent bothered to go any further.

Personally i feel the official report was relatively accurate, or atleast reported as accurately as was necessary, and pretty much every conspiracy ive looked into has been absolute tripe, most of the "facts" in the conspiracies have been invented to make the conspiracy feasible, like the bollocks about them never finding black boxes, even though they did, and the plane must have been shot down because its engine was miles from the crash site, when it was actually only 300 yards away. People invent these conspiracies to sell books and get attention, thats it.

They also make conclusions from evidence that are totally illogical, for example, secondary explosions are not evidence of anything, i think you will find that in such a large office complex, there will be quite a few things that will explode, a bang is not proof of a bomb, i could get a bang like that np if you gave me sealed container (a collapsed and blocked part of the building) a big bag of kitchen chemicals and electrical components and a source of ignition. A building the size of that would have a whole host of chemicals in, lots of seriously big electrical components, it was filled with burning jet fuel and falling to pieces, an explosion default means someone has filled it with explosives..... mmmkay.

Actually office chairs and milk can explode too.

Not related to 9/11.

Please provide a long, thorough list of the evidence against Al-Qaeda or another terrorist organization.

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Funny how you never see the explosions....

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To be fair they would be internal, so you wouldn't see them. You barely see the explosions when they demolish buildings legitimately. Just because you don't see a huge fireball doesn't mean an explosion didn't occur.

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Apparently theres quite a nice paper trail.

Apparently the men involved where linked to al qaeda. Some of them were even official members, apparently.

Apparently al qaeda admitted to being involved.

Apparently communications that linked al qaeda to the attacks where intercepted.

Apparently al qaeda had the motive, the capabilities and the experience to pull something like 9/11 off, and had attacked america in the past, apparently.

Apparently there is tonnes more evidence, its just classified, so we dont get to see it, and they only tell us the vague details, enough to let you know generally what happened but not exactly, because the america government likes to classify everything even if it makes no sense to, just because it sounds cool.

Or we could just stop being pedantic because really, you could argue there is no proof of anything, ever, actually happening.

Proove to me you were ever born naturally? i can claim you were grown in a pot of jam, and you cant prove me wrong technically because i can easily dismiss all of your evidence, witnesses? liars, photographs? fakes. biologically impossible? evil government GM jam.

And so i come back to my point that everyone might aswell just give up and listen to what the government says happened because the full truth is never going to be known, and it wouldnt make a difference anyway.

All circumstantial, just like the evidence supporting it's a conspiracy theory is all circumstantial. I've said it before and I'll continue to say it: it comes down to what you believe.

Conspiracy theorists are not arguing it didn't happen. And while we're on the subject, please don't lump all conspiracy theorists into the same group; I'm not like most conspiracy theorists when it comes to 9/11. I don't wear a tinfoil hat. I don't protest at rallies or make signs or join forums about "the truth", etc. I didn't even know infowars.org or whatever it is called existed before jaaaake started posting.

I see your point but really it's a poor analogy. You're arguing something that pretty much has never happened (9/11) with something that has happened billions of times (being born). Birth is common knowledge. And no, you really can't prove if someone was born naturally or if they were grown in a test tube or had a Cesarean section.

Furthermore, the main reason I challenge the government's account is because they came out and made declarations almost immediately, instead of simply saying they didn't know. Had they gone that route, I would be more complacent of the government's version. Don't make declarations if you can't back it up.

I am uncomfortable with the idea of just rolling over and letting the government walk all over me. That's what's wrong with North Americans.

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Exactly why the government can do that, because the vast majority just dont care, and the minority who do care, dont make any difference at the polls, therefore, the overall change made by all the tinfoil hattery is negligible, so negligible you might aswell ignore it.

Checking out conspiracies for the pursuit of knowledge and out of interest is fine i guess, but doing it to apply pressure on the government and trying to use it to change things is pointless.

oh and personally i think my analogy was genious

The only illogical claim is that the American military, with so much money going into defense technology, has been incapable of stopping a hijacked aircraft for over an hour!

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You don't have to be sane to get into Congress, you know.

How is it "insane" to disbelieve the official fairy tale about 9/11? That's the problem with you people: you've been conditioned to think anyone who comes close to speaking out about the truth is crazy. WHAT I FIND CRAZY is how people could be defending the very system that wants to set up world dictatorship and tax your every activity.

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This has NOTHING to do with the argument.

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