The majority of us who are fortunate to earn a life-time education usually go through school. There are several different categories of viewpoints about school which range from pro-school to the anti-school side within different level of support in the subsection of the category. There are factors that affects individual's belief about the school system such as environmental factors, neurological setup, aftermath experience and how the individual takes the route when it comes to being into school. The factors can also affects how beneficial it may be for the individual. There are some people who have concluded they would learn a lot more if they didn't have to go through school while there are people who have concluded that school is the majority part of their learning.

In the schooling system, there are problems that could be harmful to certain students while it may actually be beneficial to certain students. Some of those problems in the schooling system are in the list below.

1. Teachers have limited teaching possibilities because they're having a great number of students to deal with at once, and that they need to comply with the school rules.
2. Curriculum are dysfunctional due to the varied preferences and learning methods of the students, which leads into results that aren't necessarily good.
3. The environment is not and cannot be tailored to students with special needs, such as sightless students, students who have auditory issues, or simply students with different personalities, such as introverts. This can lead to frustration, which in turn can yield unsatisfactory results.

Evidence supporting the aforementioned claims is offered via studies in neurology, psychology, and experience. We all have our limitations when it comes to both learning and teaching, which are bound to increase when augmented by rule compliance. Furthermore, the amounts of students that a teacher has to work with at once affects efficiency being hindered. Despite showing similar personality traits, two persons have different brains as observed in several different neurological studies verifying that 2 minds have different organization setup and different strength and weakness. This entails that each person must have a learning style individually tailored to their necessities. Though it may sometimes work to use a single learning method over a larger number of persons, the best can only be achieved through individual methods.

Here's some question for you to consider and answer? Note that you should explain why using evidences or experience in order to support your answer.

Is the public school system is about indoctrination to a large amount of people or is the public school system is all about learning?

Is the environment suitable for you to interact and learn?

What are the problems that hinders your learning capability?

Have you been into an alternative form of education or are you stuck going through public school?

What are your views of the students in the public school system?

What are your feelings about going through school?

Do your parents support the position of the public school system and have they taught you to support their position?

What are your reasons to support your attitude toward the public school system?

Well where i live public schools are absolutly disgusting. 1940s buildings and many dont even have libraries.

---------- Post added at 12:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:38 PM ----------

For me private schooling was much better as you encouraged to learn and not bullied for being smart. There was also more extracuricluar activiities

__________________

__________________

It completely, and I emphasize completely, depends on what nation you're talking about.

Please elaborate.

__________________

Well, my School is one of the top 20 schools in Africa...
I like it and *most* of its teachers are good
We have excellent facilities and a huge amount of extra-curricular activities.
Pretoria Boys High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

__________________
Immortality is fun until your sun decides to supernova

In Canada the public schools were great.
Here, the public schools are full of trashiness, which is just disgusting. But then again, a lot of the local sluts are from the catholic private schools.
The best school I've ever been a part of was AIPAH.<3

__________________

Rep I owe/want to give: Doofenshmirtz(x2), Ieova, Cassie--valentine, Heather, Prophet of 50 cent.

http://www.formspring.me/Asperitas <-- Ask me anything, anonymously.

public school here in the philippines some are good at teaching but some does not they also make some of these schools an evacuation center when ever calamity like typhoon volcanic eruption happens so i think there not

I think scandanavian countries have the best public school systme. Also batgirl i agree with the catholic sluts

---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:12 PM ----------

One of the top 20 schools or One of 20 schools in africa?

__________________

Also, I realized once I left AIPAH and went back to public schooling, what I hated about it. It's just so... low-class. The teachers seem to hate their jobs and take that out on the students. They hold grudges. They want out as much as the kids.
The kids are tactless, uncultured and just plain stupid in some cases.
Mind you, that's not all kids and teachers, and not all schools, but it's a majority case across where I've been.

__________________

Rep I owe/want to give: Doofenshmirtz(x2), Ieova, Cassie--valentine, Heather, Prophet of 50 cent.

http://www.formspring.me/Asperitas <-- Ask me anything, anonymously.

I used to complain about how the gov needs to fix up the public system but now have worked it out. They are making sure that we always have a "lower or Working class" of people so that the private school people can get high paying jobs. If the system was world class we would have to many people going to uni and it would be like the states where some people have worthless degrees.

__________________

Yeah... British English should probably clear that up, it makes little sense these days. Then again maybe everyone should adopt 'state school', seeing as it's a closer definition. Hneh.

As LOLFag implied, there's an ambiguity in the word 'public school'. I'm going to assume you mean a school funded by the state.
Erm... It's all about learning, and in fact fostering a healthy scepticism in students regarding all matters so as to avoid any instances indoctrination in the future. It's essentially about equipping children with the mental tools to become reasoned adults.

It really depends on the state school that you go to, but in essence it is. My state school still has quite a bad behaviour problem, which is mainly I think due to the school's catchment area and long spell with a headteacher who was not at all the most disciplinarian.

In state schools it tends to be behaviour, which so easily disrupts a class, but then the bad behaviour is less a trait of a state school itself but a state school in a poor area. There are plenty of high-performing state schools.

No, I haven't, and I'm beginning to think your questions are rather leading. I'm quite happy being 'stuck' in state education and wouldn't put my toe into anything else.

A grand mix of people that you can't generalise. Much like most 'groups' actually.

Personally school works for me, it's a great place to make and meet friends and to have an environment in which to learn. I can understand why school might not work for someone else, although I wouldn't be surprised if those feelings had been fostered from an undisciplined childhood.

Hmm... an interesting one. I wouldn't say they were diehard state-schoolers like myself. We're not a family that can afford private school, but in the run-up to the move to high school I was put through gruelling mock tests I remember hating in order to sit the scholarship exam for our local private school. In the end it turned out their 'scholarship' was a rather misleading term - only docking the termly fee by £1000. So clearly they had no qualms about me going through the private system, although they seem very happy in the situation I'm in now.

Simple. I accept that rich people should be permitted to use their wealth as a benefit to themselves. It's why I'm not bothered about a two-tier healthcare system etc.
But I don't like that wealth becoming a fundamental benefit to their children. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying rich children rich toys or rich holidays etc. But school shapes us significantly, and at the end of the day, private schools provide a platform for kids who may well have done nothing to deserve a superior education but are enjoying one, whilst all but the most intelligent of poorer children cannot see one, if any. Being such a social doorway that private school is, it becomes a bar to a meritocratic society, which would be a better society than the one we have now.

What is it about the public system in Australia that is wrong at the moment?

__________________

Well what I meant was that different nations have different approaches to the public school system and emphasize different aspects of education. You can't really ask me to ponder whether public schools are doing their duty when different nations have different standards.

__________________

Before even discussing the topic about learning, I need you to define learning. Certain words of mine could be applied to several different nation considering that there will be always minds that hates a certain type of school regardless of the benefits from school. There will be always a mind that goes against homeschooling even though majority of the people that go through homeschooling appears to go ahead of people that go through public school. Glad you both enjoyed going through school. As for Batgirl, you're lucky to have a extremely entertaining school to go through. The fact that creative subjects are common can be concluded in there using observation triggers my desires to go there, but however I quit on art class simply because art class is a repetition of all the basics in art. Mind giving me a couple of information on art class in there? Do they allow you to do whatever form of art or do you have to follow as they say like they do in my school? I'm sort of refusing to take lessons from art class after experiencing over 10 years of art from young age to adolescent development age. I have tried letting them teach me the basics and I didn't gain knowledge of art at all. Other people tried teaching me their style of art when it goes against my style of art which is another reason I refuse to get lessons from art class. Yes, my writings comes from the experience using observation going through school funded by the state. While learning is beneficial to students and school needs students to learn in order to make it work, school can also be about indoctrination of propaganda by using several different ways to indoctrinate somebody such as the combination of efforts within pro-school advocates, teaching students the beliefs within pro-school advocates at a young age till high school graduation, using examples to prove faulty assumption, and ignoring differing views that goes directly against the pro-school advocates beliefs. I agree with the equipping childrens with mental tools that they need only to a point where I believe it helps a fraction of childrens out there including a fraction of those who supports state school. The basic concept behind school indoctrination is no different than other kind of groups who tends to teach their childrens without questioning. The basic concept behind just about all form of indoctrination would be manipulation and getting people to conform to the groups with pressures in case of the individual questioning the group.The other basic concept is the masses will pressure him for a long time to stick with the group. Majority who got into a form of indoctrination their entire life usually ends up being ignorance with denial. Luckily, there are people who realized what they are being taught and they have been questioning certain things that they have been indoctrinated to believe in. I used to be indoctrinated for years by teachers, parents, and possible other sources with the idea that school is the only place to learn which will lead me to success till I have seen plenty of evidences proving that there are other place to learn and the role to success is usually to plan right while doing the trail right. I also learn what works for the majority doesn't neccessarily work for everybody in the end by questioning what I have been taught to believe in. This is what leads me into trying to debate with people that enjoys state school about the management of education into public school. Ah, mechanical social aspects of the brain that gets people into social comforming to the groups that they are exposed to... Just keep in mind that I got nothing against learning or education itself, but I do got something against indoctrination and deceivement to support an form of education when the experience of the individuals doesn't prove their point or at least doesn't give a reason to support their point. There's plenty of evidence against the views to support school to the point where they claim that other form of education is inferior, but however there isn't much arguments against the views where public school may help certain groups of students. Indeed, it do depends on the state school that a person go through. While discipline is needed for stability of the entire school, don't you think that there are certain teachers out that are using discipline a little too far by screaming into student's face, hitting certain students when they decided not to do the work, and other problems. There are schools in America that allows mistreatment of students although it is against the laws to do so. Zero tolerance rules is one discipline rules that can actually do more damages than good. Students considerably have no rights to defend back when they're cornered with the zero tolerance rule. You're lucky that enjoyed school. As for the last part of the quote, definitely agree although there are students who have been fostered from a disciplined childhood that hated going through school for the following reasons such as they're not getting much from school although they have strong potentials to learn, disciplines issues, and many dumb students regardless of their background. Note this by the way: I'm one of the people who doesn't get too much from the school environment although school did help me learn basic math and reading and I learn simply by reading outside of school while teaching myself although school did help me learn basic math and reading, but that as far as school can help me in my own education although I would have learned a lot more outside of school if I attempted to teach myself without a guide before high school. Because of the fact that I haven't teach myself, I sort of regretted my choices for my development in knowledge by letting other people teach me without teaching myself much which leads me to work hard on educating myself to get ahead of other people. I got 3D modeling work to do while having a lot of artworks behind my back. I also teach myself reading and science outside of school in order to help further my development in knowledge. It worked a lot more than having teachers to help me. School does shape people significantly or strongly and the results are different to the point where there is several considerably negative shaping while there are considerably positive shaping at the same time there are considerably neutral shaping. We all get a shape from the environmental factors that we go through. Society is going to need a lot more reforming and regulations in order to become a decent one IMO.

I'm not quite sure what you mean there. Are you talking about at the public school or at AIPAH?

__________________

Rep I owe/want to give: Doofenshmirtz(x2), Ieova, Cassie--valentine, Heather, Prophet of 50 cent.

http://www.formspring.me/Asperitas <-- Ask me anything, anonymously.

Yeah, the education system is broken, but the real problem is that pile of plastic in your living room called a TV.

__________________