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  • Re: Socialism

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    Quote: “ That's not showing it false at all. Any government can enforce random production at a high level, but that assertion misses the point of rationally allocating resources. And there's nothing inherently 'rational' about directing the economy to violence at the whim of the state, so I'm not sure how you reason that the point on war discredits me either.” First, the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia did not itself intend or wish to military conflict. The civil war which occurred was started by…

  • Re: Death penalty

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    The death penalty is inherently counterproductive, and indeed very reactionary. First, it is a poor deterrent because it does not address the causes of crime. It does not pinpoint and eliminate the criminals. More importantly, it does nothing to change the situation which has led to the development of criminality. Indeed, a man does not commit a crime out of some inborn desire to break the laws of society, to damage it, to kill or to steal something. It serves no purpose, what motivation could t…

  • Re: Socialism

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    Quote from Frosty: “Since capitalism entails private ownership and control of resources, I've always found it completely ridiculous whenever someone says it is a problem of capitalism. War, by it's very nature, is anti-capitalist. ” War is anti-capitalist? Where would you get such an idea from? War is the very means by which capitalism defends itself. It is a tool, if anything, used to establish supremacy of one bourgeoisie society over another. It is used as a tool of repression, in order that …

  • Re: Socialism

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    Quote from LOLFag: “ The problem with socialism is that, while it is a very good concept that will undoubtedly benefit the human race, there is nobody who is purely good. People are selfish and self-centered. They keep all for themselves and don't care about others in need. People are lazy. People will, if possible, do nothing and try to get something out of it, which is what many of your arguments are, and I agree. Human nature is selfish, unkind, ungrateful, and horrible. Capitalists think for…

  • Quote from DamnImGood: “Bacteria owns us in terms of survival and prosperity.” But theirs is a different type. They reproduce very quickly, within a day, tens if not hundreds of generations of bacteria will live and die, and only the ones best fit for their environment will survive and reproduce. But bacteria can only prosper within that limited framework. That is, a generation born will be limited to its genetics, it will progress no more until it reproduces and introduces the possibility of ge…

  • Physically, we are very much like the rest of life in the world. We respirate, we are carbon based, we were the result of the same natural forces which created the rest of life on this planet, but we differ in one extraordinary way, in that we have a reasoning mind. And this very fact has the potential to make us unlike any other animal. Because with our mind, we can learn, advance and develop. We can, and have for our entire history, shaped nature to our demands. We have overcome sicknesses and…

  • Re: Religion

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    Quote from Neal: “What Atheists do not comprehend is that Christianity is NOT a “religion”; it is a TRANSFORMED LIFESTYLE of a SEPARATED PEOPLE. And Atheists also do not understand that Christ did NOT come to establish a “religion”; He was AGAINST “religion”. And Atheists are oblivious to the fact that God and Christ are NOT the “Authors” of RELIGION, but rather the Transdimensional Adversarial Entity (Satan) is the “author” of RELIGION. Thus the so-called “Holy Wars” in the name of God are Sata…

  • Re: Religion

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    Religion, if examined objectively, based on historical facts and treated without presumptions, shows itself to be a false and duplicitous affair. Scripture and doctrine change with the times, gods are lost then recreated and any action can be justified with its use. It is used, even now, as a means of coercion and control, a false crutch, a conditioned dependence. Marx's opium of the masses, used to justify the suffering of society, the divisions of mankind, the wars the poverty, by stating that…

  • Re: Socialism

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    I have read this thread, and seen precious little of the ideas of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky and the many other socialists. I have seen use of many of the words, but they have not been correctly used. It has been so far, as I see it, a discussion of misconceptions, glorified ideals and misinformation. Socialism is the state of the lowest form of Communist development. And so far, no nation, no group to be more precise, has ever reached this state. The revolutions in France, Russia and the like…

  • Quote from CashMoney: “I won't take sides on this but why help? why should other countries use their troops, their army, their money just to help out Israel? Have we not done enough? Is it our problem that your people are hated everywhere? I mean seriously, even in WW2 they didn't want jews to come here. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Jewish people, or even Israel as a nation, my problem comes when Israel asks for help when it really doesn't deserve it, what has Israel done for the w…

  • Religion is a means of exerting control over the masses. Political, social or economic, it is used by those with power to subjugate those without, to justify their lives of suffering or disenfranchisement with the promise of a better existence once they die. Religion is not the only means of control, however, there exist plenty of institutions for it. But if it did not exist, as it exists today, it would not be a grand change. There would be another institution which would have risen in its plac…

  • Re: social contract

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    Quote: “I hate that way that some people define coercion, because to take such a broad definition means that coercion is simply a part of nature, trivialising legitimate examples of coercion like when a government threatens you to obey it under threat of violence.” Coercion is simply apart from nature, but it was never my intention to either trivialize it or to make it acceptable in the case of governmental tyranny. It is my point that the social contract arose, in the form of governments, socie…

  • Re: social contract

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    The world is quite full of coercive contracts. The very existence of man can be seen as coercive. It demands certain things or else it does not function. A man is from birth coerced to find food, to secure shelter, to seek clothing, medicine and companionship. A company coerces labor from its employees, it offers them exploitation or starvation. And coercion is always prevalent, and social contracts have, therefore, always existed as a necessity. Society, economy and government were created not …

  • Is the goal eternal life proper or life until boredom? The former, without choice for the latter, is a seeming punishment. The latter, if that is the goal intended, can be achieved and the question becomes not can it be done, but when will it be done?

  • While it is very likely that the development of effective, that is net-productive, nuclear fusion would mean superceding most power generation modes with it, it cannot be the only future form of power generation. Solar power, in the form of space-sattelite nets, is also a likely avenue. Focusing on only one means of pwoer generation, regardless of technological development, threatens the same drawbacks as the fossil fuel industry is facing. Furthermore, power generation techniques are not a matt…

  • Re: Do we exist?

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    This question is logically inconsistent since the only way the question can be asked is if there was someone to ask it. Currently, without refinement, the question is utterly nonsensical.

  • Re: odinism

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    To speak of what we see it as is to speak an opinion, but then again it is a religion you are after so facts be dammed. Odinism, worshiping the Nordic Pantheon, Thor God of Hammers, Odin god of Swords and Loki god of annoying clowns at the circus who, at the very end of the night, manage to get you charged with a felony and have a belly laugh outside your prison cell. As I See It: Concluded

  • Re: Vegetarianism

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    The one virtue of vegetarianism over omnivorism is the thermodynamic efficiency. Humans gain a far greater amount of energy if they consume plants then of they consume animals. That is, eating an animal means going through a mid-step where the animal ate plants. This transition of energy, in the form of different types of biomatter plant-animal, is less than 100% efficient and, therefore, means a greater amount of energy wasted than if the plant was eaten directly by the human. If, for example, …

  • Re: social contract

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    A social contract, in the general sense, means that a group of people, for some collective interest, sacrifice certain personal rights. This is a fact in any organization. In order for the organization in question to posses the power to further the collective goal which led to its inception requires that the organization take on some powers which affect the actions of the people taking part in the organization. That is, the members of the organization are bound to suffer some rules or demands in…

  • Should schools teach that there is no god? Schools should teach reasoning and critical thought. They should teach the students how to think, how to reason and how to grow. They should teach mathematics and science to teach reason and analysis. They should teach literature to cultivate critical thought. The specific article through which they do this, be it Dickens or Machiavelli, are irrelevant. The point is to teach the students to think. To gather their information, analyze it and come to a co…