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09-19-2007, 03:33 AM
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Money: 11,995 My Mood: Points: 54,515, Level: 57 | | Circumcision what do you think about it.... not just the male Circumcision but the female Circumcision aswell Quote:
ircumcision removes the foreskin from the penis. For infant circumcision, clamps, such as the Gomco clamp, Plastibell, and Mogen are often used.[19] Clamps are designed to cut the blood supply to the foreskin, stop any bleeding and protect the glans. Before using a clamp, the foreskin and the glans are separated with a blunt probe and/or curved hemostat.- With the Plastibell, the foreskin and the clamp come away in three to seven days.
- With a Gomco clamp, a section of skin is first crushed with a hemostat then slit with scissors. The foreskin is drawn over the bell shaped portion of the clamp and inserted through a hole in the base of the clamp and the clamp is tightened, "crushing the foreskin between the bell and the base plate." The crushing limits bleeding (provides hemostasis). While the flared bottom of the bell fits tightly against the hole of the base plate, the foreskin is then cut away with a scalpel from above the base plate. The bell prevents the glans being reached by the scalpel.[20]
- With a Mogen clamp, the foreskin is grabbed dorsally with a straight hemostat, and lifted up. The Mogen clamp is then slid between the glans and hemostat, following the angle of the corona to "avoid removing excess skin ventrally and to obtain a superior cosmetic result," than with Gomco or Plastibell circumcisions. The clamp is locked shut, and a scalpel is used to cut the foreskin from the flat (upper) side of the clamp.[21][22]
The frenulum is cut if frenular chordee is evident.[23][24]
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Different terms are used to describe the act of female genital cutting. Opponents of these practices tend to use the term Female Genital Mutilation (FGM), whereas groups who support and practice this ritual tend to use the term Female Circumcision (FC), which is also considered a euphemism. Advocates of male circumcision argue that the term "female circumcision" results in unwanted associations between the two practices, while genital integrity advocates might refer to all child genital cutting as mutilation.
The expression Female Genital Mutilation gained growing support in the late 1970s. The word mutilation not only established clear linguistic distinction from male circumcision, but it also emphasized the gravity of the act. In 1990, this term was adopted at the third conference of the Inter African Committee on Traditional Practices Affecting the Health of Women and Children (IAC) in Addis Ababa. In 1991, the World Health Organization recommended that the United Nations adopt this terminology and subsequently, it has been widely used in UN documents.
Amnesty International and the World Health Organization most often refer to the practice as 'Female Genital Mutilation'.[1][2][3][4]
The use of the word mutilation reinforces the idea that this practice is a violation of the human rights of girls and women, and thereby helps promote national and international advocacy towards its abandonment. At the community level, however, the term can be problematic. Local languages generally use the less judgmental “cutting” to describe the practice; parents understandably resent the suggestion that they are “mutilating” their daughters. In this spirit, in 1999, the UN called for tact and patience regarding activities in this area and drew attention to the risk of “demonizing” certain cultures, religions and communities. As a result, the term “cutting” has increasingly come to be used to avoid alienating communities.[5]
In 1996 the UNFPA-sponsored Reproductive, Educative, And Community Health program coined the term 'Female Genital Cutting', observing that 'Female Genital Mutilation' may "imply excessive judgment by outsiders as well as insensitivity toward individuals who have undergone some form of genital excision.[6] Different types
There are several distinct practices of FGC that range in severity, depending on how much genital tissue is cut away. Four major types have been categorized (see Diagram 1), although there is some debate as to whether all common forms of FGC fit into these four categories, as well as issues with the reliability of reported data.[7] 
Diagram 1:This image shows the different types of FGC and how they differ to the normal female anatomy. Type I: Clitoridectomy Clitoridectomy involves the removal or splitting of the clitoral hood, termed "hoodectomy" (or "clitorodotomy"), with or without excision of the clitoris, see Diagram 1B. The clitoral hood is the female prepuce, homologous to the foreskin of the male. This term was devised in The Sudan by the Anglo-Sudanese administration in 1946 in an attempt to promote this "milder" form of FGC instead of the more severe Type III, infibulation or pharaonic circumcision, that was widely practiced.[8] Removal of the clitoral hood may be performed in order to increase sexual response.[9] Type II: Excision Excision refers to clitoridectomy (removal of the prepuce and the clitoris) plus the partial or total removal of the labia minora, the inner lips of the vulva, see Diagram 1C. Type II circumcision is a more extensive form of FGC compared to Type I and due to the sewing together of the leftover labia minora epidermis, which contains sweat glands, a buildup of sweat and urine in the closed off space beneath this closure can lead to local or urinary infection, septicemia, hemorrhaging and cyst formation.[10] This type of FGC is also called khafd, meaning reduction in Arabic. Type III: Infibulation Type III is the most severe form of FGC and is called infibulation or pharaonic circumcision (referring to the Pharaohs who were thought to practice this form). Infibulation involves extensive tissue removal of the external genitalia, including all of the labia minora and the inside of the labia majora, leaving a raw open wound. The labia majora are then held together using thorns or stitching and the girl's legs are tied together for two to six weeks, to prevent her from moving and allow the healing of the two sides of the vulva. Nothing remains of the normal anatomy of the genitalia, except for a wall of flesh from the pubis down to the anus, with the exception of a pencil-size opening at the inferior portion of the vulva to allow urine and menstrual blood to pass through, see Diagram 1D. This type of FGC is often carried out by an elderly matron or midwife of the village on girls between the ages of two and six, without anaesthetic and under unhygienic conditions.[11]
A reverse infibulation can be performed to allow for sexual intercourse (often by the husband using a knife on the wedding night) or when undergoing labor, or by female relatives, whose responsibility it is to inspect the wound every few weeks and open it some more if necessary. During childbirth, the enlargement is too small to allow vaginal delivery, and so the infibulation must be opened completely and restored after delivery. Once again, the legs are tied together to allow the wound to heal, and the procedure is repeated for each subsequent act of intercourse or childbirth. When childbirth takes place in a hospital, the surgeons may preserve the infibulation by enlarging the vagina with deep episiotomies. Afterwards, the patient may insist that her vulva be closed again so that her husband does not reject her.[11]
This practice is reported to cause the disappearance of sexual pleasure for the women affected, as well as major medical complications. Most advocates of the practice continue to perform the procedure in adherence to standards of beauty that are very different from those in the west. Many infibulated women will contend that the pleasure their partners receive due to this procedure is a definitive part of a successful marriage. Type IV: Other types
There are other forms that are collectively referred to as Type IV and usually do not involve any tissue removal at all, but rather the "cutting" is simulated with a knife as part of a ceremony. This includes a diverse range of practices, including pricking the clitoris with needles, burning or scarring the genitals as well as ripping or tearing of the vagina or introducing herbs into the vagina to cause bleeding and a narrowed vaginal opening (ref). Type IV is found primarily among isolated ethnic groups as well as in combination with other types.
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09-19-2007, 03:50 AM
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Money: 8,861 My Mood: Points: 59,305, Level: 59 | | Re: Circumcision i'm fine with male circumcision. I've heard of female circumcision, but that's a little weird. i dunno why. guess i'm not used to it. |
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09-19-2007, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuck Buddy i'm fine with male circumcision. I've heard of female circumcision, but that's a little weird. i dunno why. guess i'm not used to it. | it is used in barbaric religions, thes remove the clitorus and seal the vagina wich is then broken open by her husband on the wedding night. they normaly peform Circumcision at about 12 |
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09-19-2007, 04:05 AM
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Money: -2,074 | Re: Circumcision I think thats type 3 FGC is disturbing to say the least. Imagine having to use a knife on a girls vagina before you have sex. |
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09-19-2007, 04:10 AM
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09-19-2007, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuck Buddy i'm having a hard time picturing not to use one  |  |
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09-19-2007, 05:23 AM
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Money: -1,884 | Re: Circumcision I was considering getting circumcised but now after reading that, no thanks. Sounds too painful. |
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09-19-2007, 10:57 AM
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Money: -2,111 | Re: Circumcision That was the first time I've ever heard of that female crap....I think I'd rather kill myself then go through either one of those 3 horrifying situations...I was in pain just reading that. D= |
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09-19-2007, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dagingercode it is used in barbaric religions, thes remove the clitorus and seal the vagina wich is then broken open by her husband on the wedding night. they normaly peform Circumcision at about 12 | then how does she pee if its all sealed up? |
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09-19-2007, 12:10 PM
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Money: -2,111 | Re: Circumcision Well it says that she has a small hole for urination and.....that other unique thing us "lucky" females get once a horrible month. |
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09-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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Money: -1,046 | Re: Circumcision wouldnt that make her vagina really really really infected from never being able to clean it? |
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09-19-2007, 12:23 PM
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Money: -2,111 | Re: Circumcision Well I wouldn't wanna find out... |
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09-19-2007, 12:27 PM
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Money: -2,111 | Re: Circumcision Hmm, but if you read the last part of it...that should answer your questions. I don't think it could get infected much, being that it's all closed up...I don't know, but that would piss me off. |
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09-22-2007, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffler I was considering getting circumcised but now after reading that, no thanks. Sounds too painful. |  
it is alot better for you to get it done |
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09-22-2007, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuck Buddy i'm fine with male circumcision. I've heard of female circumcision, but that's a little weird. i dunno why. guess i'm not used to it. | I don't see how you can get used to FGM unless you have a secret female genitalia. 
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