Obama is a Failure

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      riso2011 wrote:

      Obama is not the best president we have had by far, but the two republicans candidates he ran against were terrible. So it could be worst, we could have Romney right now.

      Meh. It would have been good to have a business man in office right now, however most of his policies and views were incredibly outdated.
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      nightlife138 wrote:

      It would have been nice to not have had a socialist who doesn't believe we have a spending problem as president.

      Socialists would be extremely offended that you call Obama one. :lol: And we have a spending problem? Oh, I guess it's a good thing that Obama is the lowest spending president since Eisenhower, isn't it?

      Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes
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      Ari Gold wrote:

      Socialists would be extremely offended that you call Obama one. :lol:

      You ain't lying. Almost every socialist I have talked to or seen on the news absolutely hates him.

      Ari Gold wrote:


      And we have a spending problem? Oh, I guess it's a good thing that Obama is the lowest spending president since Eisenhower, isn't it?

      Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama? - Forbes

      Not sure how accurate that is.. gonna need another chart. I have learned you can't get an accurate, unbiased fact from the news. They are so fucking far off to one side.
      Either way, I do believe that Obama takes a lot more blame for the economy than we should. As much as the republicans wanna point fingers at the democrats, they are anything but innocent in starting the economic crisis.
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      That article is incredibly well-sourced and it's 100% accurate. Forbes is one of the most unbiased things out there.

      I don't think Obama deserves any blame for the economy at all. On the contrary, things he's done have only helped strengthen it. Conservatives love to say things like "artificially boosting the economy" but it's all bullshit without substance. They keep talking about this new economy crash that was supposed to happen last year, but still hasn't come yet. The GOP congress have been cursing Obama's name and trying to prevent him from doing any good since the very first day he took office.

      Until the economy worsens under Obama, he's done a fine job in my opinion.
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      I don't care if his spending hasn't grown pass the annual growth allocated to each president every year. I don't care if his spending percentage isn't higher than The Bushes, he still spends 3 trillion a year. Do you honestly believe that we can sustain 3% federal spending increases every year? Do you honestly believe that we can sustain 3 trillion a year? We are going to have a Greece like economic situation in the next few years if we don't control the spending.

      Taxing the "rich" does nothing. I am curious, have you ever ran a business? Did you know that most small businesses are not classified as c corps?

      I'll give you a economic lesson from the perpective of an business owner. If you run a business and make 100,000 in profit after all is said and done(pay lights property taxes and so forth) what do you do with the money? Most the time, the business will invest half of it into highering more people, buying new machines, and so forth. The other half will be put into the bank just in-case you need a rainy day. Now, every time you tax a "rich" person, you're actually taking jobs out of the market. Why? Because they won't hire as many people or maybe they won't invest into new machines which means the machine creators won't hire as many people.

      Through my research, I've came across two repeated tax rates that would bring the most income in: 9% and 15% across the board flat tax for all income groups, I haven't concluded the best one yet.. You must always keep in mind that a lot of small business are not qualified as c corp which means they'll be taxed as a rich person.

      Lower the input so you may higher the potential so that more may put into a input and so the cycle continues.
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      nightlife138 wrote:

      Read his book entitled Dreams from my father

      You can tell that he's socialist from the book alone but if that isn't enough, take a look at everyone who raised him, socialist/communist.


      Obama isn't a fucking socialist you moron. I'm a socialist. Then again you have no clue what "socialism" actually means because you're a clueless dipshit, hence why you use the term as an insult. (Let me guess: "HURRRR, HAVEN'T YOU READ ABOUT THE USSR?! SOSHULIZM DUZNT WURK LELELEL HURRF DURRF OH GOD I'M FUCKING RETARDED DERP DERP")

      If Obama were actually a socialist he wouldn't have pushed the Obamacare insurance mandate and instead would've pulled for a universal healthcare system like every other developed country has and has had for decades. He also wouldn't be appointing Monsanto employees to positions in the FDA, or continue the Bush foreign policy and foreign occupations. There would be a hell of a lot more initiative towards more badly needed worker's unions and centralization of and increased funding for our education system.

      Obama is pro-free trade, pro gun ownership (HURR!) and pro Wall Street, and his policies clearly show it. All that shit is a conservitard's wet dream.

      Get fucked.
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      *Obamacare is the start to mandated healthcare.
      *All of the developed countries don't have the same conditions that we do, we have millions of Illegals who don't work/pay taxes
      *List of Socialist countries; China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Syria, and Zambia off the top of my head. I am sure that the citizens in those countries love socialism ;D
      --RMG; Do some research on the Baltic Tiger and see what happened once they broke their socialist ties ;D

      *Obama has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't support the free markets. I will gather up some information to show that he is a socialist.
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      nightlife138 wrote:

      *Obamacare is the start to mandated healthcare.
      *All of the developed countries don't have the same conditions that we do, we have millions of Illegals who don't work/pay taxes
      *List of Socialist countries; China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Syria, and Zambia off the top of my head. I am sure that the citizens in those countries love socialism ;D
      --RMG; Do some research on the Baltic Tiger and see what happened once they broke their socialist ties ;D

      *Obama has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't support the free markets. I will gather up some information to show that he is a socialist.


      >Baltic Tiger


      I'll tell you what. We had a few tough years, then constant progress until your jewish overlords decided to bankrupt a few banks. And how are we related to this?
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      Let's be real, the only reason conservatives hate Obama is because he's black. His policies, save a few social ones, are entirely align with George Bush's. Republicans criticize him now for the same exact things that they praised Bush for. It's hilarious how obviously racist the entire party is.

      >tfw there will never be another Republican president
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      Ari Gold wrote:

      Let's be real, the only reason conservatives hate Obama is because he's black. His policies, save a few social ones, are entirely align with George Bush's. Republicans criticize him now for the same exact things that they praised Bush for. It's hilarious how obviously racist the entire party is.

      >tfw there will never be another Republican president


      Hurhur racism, ha. Bummer that I am not a republican and I do know a lot of republicans who criticized Bush.
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      Citky wrote:

      >the magic free market is magical
      >Obama is socialist


      How are you NOT republican?


      I do not support a large amount of their social issues and I am atheist.

      The free market is greatly explained by Milton Friedman; Free to Chose Series and his book entitled Capitalism and Freedom

      Take a look at his first episode of Free to Chose; they have a discussion afterward.
      [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4]Free to Choose: Part 1 of 10 The Power of the Market (Featuring Milton Friedman) - YouTube[/ame]