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Islam. Check Out This Video! It Got Me Thinking.
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There is no doubt that islam is evil. I read the quran from cover to cover. It contradicts itself often and it talks about killing unbelievers. And then take a look at muhammed in his mid to late 40's marrying a 5/6 year old girl and having sex with her. Islam is against human nature and it is flat out dangerous.
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penguin10916 wrote:
There is no doubt that islam is evil. I read the quran from cover to cover. It contradicts itself often and it talks about killing unbelievers. And then take a look at muhammed in his mid to late 40's marrying a 5/6 year old girl and having sex with her. Islam is against human nature and it is flat out dangerous.
you're a liar, the quran tells us to leave unbelievers alone and they will get their punishment in hell, show me the evrse where it says we should kill unbelievers[SIZE=2]"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx4TS94K0lY"
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Looks like something the BNP would make tbh
I find what he said disgusting and what the penguin guy said disgusting too... VERY insulting.
I have reported it -
I personally think this thread is fine. It's being no more mature or immature than the "Is GOD real?" thread. The Christians are getting a lot of crap, and I don't see why Muslim should get special treatment. These people disagree with Muslim and the way they're seeing how things go, they have a right to express it. They're not abusing you or insulting you, just trying to get their opinion across.
If you disagree, then explain why you think they're wrong.She kept lookin' at her watch (Doesn't matter; had sex)
But I cried the whole time (Doesn't matter; had sex)
I think she might've been a racist (Doesn't matter; had sex)
She put a bag on my head (Still counts) -
Miss Loo wrote:
Looks like something the BNP would make tbh
I find what he said disgusting and what the penguin guy said disgusting too... VERY insulting.
I have reported it
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Ammon wrote:
They're not abusing you or insulting you, just trying to get their opinion across.
I'm fairly certain being called evil and likened to pathogenic bacteria is more than insulting for the majority of people...
Personally, I don't have much of a vested interest in this, but I really had to suppress a laugh every time he referred to the West as "we in the civilised world." The civilised world? Honestly? As opposed to all us foreign savages I assume? I suppose he's still living in the British colonial ages as well, is he? If anyone needs to update to the 21st century, it's this self-righteous old man - he's clearly spent too long in his basement filming himself that he's forgotten how to interact with anyone else. He needs to open his eyes as opposed to just his mouth and stop congratulating himself on how his snide pseudo-philosophy appears to sound deep just because he talks with an upper-middle class English accent.
I'm happy to discuss almost anything to everything, but not when the person is clearly incapable of being civil. If he's genuine about wanting to discuss matters, he would be a gentleman about it, but all he wants to do is just rant and stir up trouble, so as far as I'm concerned, for all his rhetoric and oratory techniques, he's just a thug in an old shirt buttoned all the way to the top. -
Ammon wrote:
I personally think this thread is fine. It's being no more mature or immature than the "Is GOD real?" thread. The Christians are getting a lot of crap, and I don't see why Muslim should get special treatment. These people disagree with Muslim and the way they're seeing how things go, they have a right to express it.
I agree, but you are aware that more than one Muslim are Muslims, right?[CENTER]
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Urchins wrote:
I'm fairly certain being called evil and likened to pathogenic bacteria is more than insulting for the majority of people...
Personally, I don't have much of a vested interest in this, but I really had to suppress a laugh every time he referred to the West as "we in the civilised world." The civilised world? Honestly? As opposed to all us foreign savages I assume? I suppose he's still living in the British colonial ages as well, is he? If anyone needs to update to the 21st century, it's this self-righteous old man - he's clearly spent too long in his basement filming himself that he's forgotten how to interact with anyone else. He needs to open his eyes as opposed to just his mouth and stop congratulating himself on how his snide pseudo-philosophy appears to sound deep just because he talks with an upper-middle class English accent.
I'm happy to discuss almost anything to everything, but not when the person is clearly incapable of being civil. If he's genuine about wanting to discuss matters, he would be a gentleman about it, but all he wants to do is just rant and stir up trouble, so as far as I'm concerned, for all his rhetoric and oratory techniques, he's just a thug in an old shirt buttoned all the way to the top.
Oh, I won't deny that guy in the video was a bit much. I meant more what penguin was saying. He could've said it more eloquently, but take a look at the debate on whether or not God is real. I've seen them in there flat out insulting people (calling them stupid, idiots, any type of synonym they can come up for that, etc.) without getting a second glance.
My point was, if they can get away with it in one thread, why not another? if you're gonna punish the attack on one religion, punish it on all counts.
And don't worry; I don't think Sasha would let an old man on the forums. =3
Yeah, my hands must be hating the 's' key.
Jaysal wrote:
I agree, but you are aware that more than one Muslim are Muslims, right?
Nice catch.
I don't know, maybe I'd just like to see a nice debate on a different religion. Gets kind of boring when the debate is always "CHRISTIANITY SUCKS" "CHRISTIANITY ROCKS" =[She kept lookin' at her watch (Doesn't matter; had sex)
But I cried the whole time (Doesn't matter; had sex)
I think she might've been a racist (Doesn't matter; had sex)
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COK3CAD3T wrote:
Anonymous1 I knew you would find this thread and disagree.
I do not mean to offend you, I mean to bring up the questions which are being discussed by people around the world.
I could just as easily have posted a video of a muslim defending their rights.
But you must see....why do you not accept british and american culture when we are made to accept yours?
thanks for being nice with your response and not insulting me BUT
who said british and american culture are aren't accepted[SIZE=2]"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx4TS94K0lY"
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Many people in the middle east hate America in general. Its because of this hate that 9/11 and other terrorist attacks across the world occurred.
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penguin10916 wrote:
Many people in the middle east hate America in general. Its because of this hate that 9/11 and other terrorist attacks across the world occurred.
how is that my problem, i hate the American government, but i don't hate American people, i might not like them, but i dont hate them[SIZE=2]"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx4TS94K0lY"
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penguin10916 wrote:
Find a copy of the quran and read. That is all I ask and read it with an open mind ignoring nothing.
I have thank you very much, in both arabic and translated to english... Different interpretations can be made, just like with every holy book out there, due to different situations within the individual's life and their primary and/or secondary socialisation that they encountered.
Capt Sasha wrote:
It is the other way round. Americans hate the Middle Easterns far more than Middle Easterns do them.
Most American WASPs hate everyone in the world who isn't one of them or doesn't 'convert' to their ideology. During the entire Cold War, they desperately wanted to kill Russians, a lot of them still do. It is only the threat of a deadly nuclear showdown that stopped Americans from even making such an attempt. Americans pacified their bloodlust for Russians by poisoning, burning, bombing and raping 4,000,000+ men, women and children in Vietnam and 2,000,000 in Cambodia.
During the 1950s phase of the Cold War, they wanted to kill the Chinese too, only to be stopped by the success of Chinese nuclear weapons program. Later, they pacified with the Chinese in the hope of creating an anti-Russia ally in the Far East.
After the Cold War, most of their hate was targeted at the Middle East, and unfortunately the people of Iraq or Iran don't have a leader strong enough to arm themselves with a first rate military to protect them. Most of them were Cold War stooges of United States, like Saddam and Laden, before they found themselves out of business when the Cold War ended.
As usual, Sasha's talking sense... I suggest you listen to him.
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Ammon wrote:
I personally think this thread is fine. It's being no more mature or immature than the "Is GOD real?" thread. The Christians are getting a lot of crap, and I don't see why Muslim should get special treatment. These people disagree with Muslim and the way they're seeing how things go, they have a right to express it. They're not abusing you or insulting you, just trying to get their opinion across.
If you disagree, then explain why you think they're wrong.
I agree with this. The penguin fellow may not have politically correct views but other threads which insult Christians are allowed to exist, so should this one.
Personally, I believe it's more of a case of the few giving the many a bad name. I've known muslims and the ones I knew were perfectly nice people. Extremists can give anyone a bad name.
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How about, we stop judging people by their religion or country. Because people from any religion or country can be good people and there's always 'bed' people as well - it doesn't change anything, stop the stereotyping, etc.
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I wish that I could call this stereo typing. But I've read the quran and it is very antismetic and it gives men the right to beat there wives IF there cheating or misbehaving. Anonymous! has even admitted to the antisemitism.
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I think you need to read the Qur'an again with a clear mind... It's obvious you're interpretating it wrong.
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Direct quotes from the Koran.
ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah...And the Jews say Ezra is the son of God; and the Christians say Christ is the son of God; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; Allah's curse be on them; how they are turned away!" (Koran 9:29-30) [FONT=arial,helvetica]
[/FONT] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah (8:39)
When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer [become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them (9:5)
FIGHT THEM: ALLAH WILL PUNISH THEM BY YOUR HANDS AND BRING THEM TO DISGRACE, AND ASSIST YOU AGAINST THEM. (9:14)
I WILL CAST TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE. THEREFORE STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS AND STRIKE OFF EVERY FINGERTIP OF THEM. THIS IS BECAUSE THEY ACTED ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER; AND WHOEVER ACTS ADVERSELY TO ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER - THEN SURELY ALLAH IS SEVERE IN REQUITING (EVIL). THIS - TASTE IT, AND (KNOW) THAT FOR THE UNBELIEVERS IS THE PUNISHMENT OF FIRE. O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve marching for war, then turn not your backs to them. And whoever shall turn his back to them on that day - unless he turn aside for the sake of fighting or withdraws to a company - then he, indeed, becomes deserving of Allah's wrath, and his abode is hell; and an evil destination shall it be. So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy) but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; (8:12-17)
Yeah Islam is such a decent religion.
they really are misjudged.
(sarcasm to the max)
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Thing is....
It's Qur'an... Not Koran.
That's the Qur'an translated into english... Interpretations have changed massively in those quotes than the original arabic. I suggest you read it
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