Okay, I am an idiot, this post was made under a false news page I read... Gonna check more than one source from now on, and never that source!
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The Pope
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Your post is a bit misleading.Newfoundking wrote:
Not as if he really serves any real purpose now, I don't care about his position....
I am a little upset that he was a member of Hitler's Young army, and I do believe he was also a member of the Nazis at one point.. Recently on a trip to israel, he refused to say the holocaust was bad (basically) and he wouldn't apologize for being a Nazi. I didn't read the whole story on it, but I read enough to get info out. What is your opinion, what should he do? Should he even be pope? My opinion is he should be allowed to be pope under one circumstance, he apologizes for being a nazi, and says the holocaust was bad.
Basically, he is the leader of Catholics, which is a lot of people, and for him to say, yeah, I was a nazi, and the holocaust, whatever... No I don't think that is right, not for a man in his position...
So what is your opinion
"Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth, as membership was required for all 14-year old German boys after December 1939, but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith, according to biographer John L. Allen, Jr."
Pope Benedict XVI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also,
The New York Times > AP > International > New Pope Defied Nazis As Teen During WWII
As for the trip to Israel, his condemning of the Holocaust seemed pretty clear to me.
Pope Benedict XVI at Jerusalem Holocaust Memorial in Israel - Bild.deHe said that the names of those who were murdered will be left “for good in the memory of the almighty God. Their suffering can never be denied, belittled or forgotten.”
They were the clear and unequivocal words that many Israelis had been hoping for.
Benedict XVI (82) said: “As we stand here in silence, their cry still echoes in our hearts. It is a cry against every act of injustice and violence. It is a perpetual reproach against the spilling of innocent blood.” -
Newfoundking wrote:
Not as if he really serves any real purpose now, I don't care about his position....
I am a little upset that he was a member of Hitler's Young army, and I do believe he was also a member of the Nazis at one point.. Recently on a trip to israel, he refused to say the holocaust was bad (basically) and he wouldn't apologize for being a Nazi. I didn't read the whole story on it, but I read enough to get info out. What is your opinion, what should he do? Should he even be pope? My opinion is he should be allowed to be pope under one circumstance, he apologizes for being a nazi, and says the holocaust was bad.
Basically, he is the leader of Catholics, which is a lot of people, and for him to say, yeah, I was a nazi, and the holocaust, whatever... No I don't think that is right, not for a man in his position...
So what is your opinion
You really have no idea do you? Joining the Hitler Youth was forced on all children. You may believe that he was a Nazi if you like, but there are no facts to back you up. Regarding your pope halocaust opinion, I am pretty sure he made it clear that the holocaust was terrible, he even put flowers at auschwitz.
If you are not a Catholic you don't have a right to say who should be Pope.
If you are a Catholic you should not have so little faith in our Pope...
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I think many people make the same assumptions as the OP did. I am not a fan of the pope or religion in general but I will never say anything bad about such things unless there were facts to support my arguments.
My uncle was in Mussolini's fascist youth group as well. That does not make my uncle a fascist. He was required to join at a young age. He tells stories of how they had lots of fun during their gatherings, singing, dancing and playing games. The youth group wasn't oppressive, it was to encourage growth and education.11/4/08 - National Epic Fail Day
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DamnImGood wrote:
He's pretty much the leader of the Catholic Church. He's also the guy who tells Africa not to use condoms.
Africa's Aids battle should be fought with abstinence not condoms, says the Pope...
It is almost universally agreed that aids will continue to spread in Africa at the same rate even if more Africans use condoms.
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Africa's Aids battle should be fought with abstinence not condoms, says the Pope...
It is almost universally agreed that aids will continue to spread in Africa at the same rate even if more Africans use condoms.
I am not saying that the Pope is right in saying that, but if abstinence is used instead, the spread would be cut down by a great percentage.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] -
Don't worry about it. No big deal.Newfoundking wrote:
*hides face in shame*
Okay, well I was just posting after reading an article I found on the default homepage on my computer... I saw that, and I guess I didn't read it too well.. I'm a bit of an idiot..
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DamnImGood wrote:
I don't see how it would spread at the same rate if a prevention method is put into place. Of course abstinence prevents STDs from being transmitted, but you can apply that logic to anywhere in the world. Why should Africa be forced not to use condoms because it has a high rate of infection? That logic makes no sense.
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DamnImGood wrote:
While under the influence of the Pope, it pretty much is being forced to. And no, condoms is not going to be a magical answer to their problem, but it certainly can't hurt.
The pope doesn't control Africa, so it's not being forced to... but fair enough, I see your point.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] -
Newfoundking wrote:
Well as being a big religious leader, he has a tremendous amount of power over them. Especially the catholic ones
There are 143 million Catholics in Africa, there are 950 million people in Africa. Thats only 15% of the population.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] -
DamnImGood wrote:
Where did you get these figures from? It's estimated 46.5% of the population is Christian.
The pope is not the leader of all of Christianity, he is only the head of the Catholic church.. and here:
BBC NEWS | World | Factfile: Roman Catholics around the world[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] -
Newfoundking wrote:
well you look and you say 15% are catholic, well what about the other 85%? They are something else, either another form of Christianity, some other religion or atheist..
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Newfoundking wrote:
That 15% of the population being one religion is substantial yes, but not amazing..
I just felt my rep drop a little soon... watch...
My point was how the pope has little influence in Africa, you just defended that point... your rep is not going to drop for something like that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] -
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andwii wrote:
fuck the evil pope. Fuck Catholics... not being mean but there ass holes thinking there better than everyone else... like guess who Hitler!
Ya, because I feel that I am so much better than others because of my faith. Where do you come up with this nonsense?
How is the pope evil? Pope JP II was a great man who I do not think that you could find one bad thing about; our current pope Benedict XVI also has done nothing you can call him evil for... You may have issues with a religion and that's fine, but I don't understand how you can come on here and rant without any evidence.
Also, where the hell did the relationship to Hitler come in? He hated Catholicism.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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