Mercantilism

    • Mercantilism

      I'll be direct; the current U.S. economic system is crap. Too many people are going out of business because they have to compete with chep imports from across the world. This is America, the greatest country in the world; we don't need anything from those primitives in Europe, but *they* sure as hell need *our* superior merchandise.

      Therefore, I propose that the U.S. stops brown-nosing the rest of the world and adopts mercantilism. I feel this is necessary if we are to remain a superpower. What about you?

    • Re: Mercantilism

      What nonesense. The US cannot produce its own goods. You have exported most of your industry. You rely every day on the products of the entire world and any attempt you make to dissolve those economic ties will bee very damaging. Also, the US cannot remain a superpower forever. Adopting an economically isolationist stance will only damage you further and will, if anything, increase US decline.
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      jnifw3nloi wrote:

      What nonesense. The US cannot produce its own goods. You have exported most of your industry. You rely every day on the products of the entire world and any attempt you make to dissolve those economic ties will bee very damaging. Also, the US cannot remain a superpower forever. Adopting an economically isolationist stance will only damage you further and will, if anything, increase US decline.


      And that's the trend I'd like to see reversed. Perhaps there woudl be an initial shock were those ties to be severed, but in the end, isolating ourselves will allow us to focus on making those products ourselves and allow greater self-sufficiency.

    • Re: Mercantilism

      I have the same feeling. I was trying to poke a hole in his plan.
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      LeifEricson wrote:

      And that's the trend I'd like to see reversed. Perhaps there woudl be an initial shock were those ties to be severed, but in the end, isolating ourselves will allow us to focus on making those products ourselves and allow greater self-sufficiency.


      The US lacks the resources to be self-sufficient. You lack the labor and the societal state to be self sufficient. The US depends a great deal more on contact than you seem to assume. Suffice it to say, there have been a number of countries in recent times that have tried their hands at self-sufficiency, they have all failed.
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      jnifw3nloi wrote:

      The US lacks the resources to be self-sufficient. You lack the labor and the societal state to be self sufficient. The US depends a great deal more on contact than you seem to assume. Suffice it to say, there have been a number of countries in recent times that have tried their hands at self-sufficiency, they have all failed.


      As I said, the results could be disastrous as you claim. But sometimes disaster is needed to catalyze growth. If we let the current system fall apart, everyone will realize how flawed it is and work for change. We may not be abel to stand on our own now, but in time, it could change.

    • Re: Mercantilism

      America is a service nation. We are a nation of specialists: we design the cars, someone else manufactures them. We are doctors, teachers, chefs, etc. The only real centralized industry is the military. We build our guns and other weapons here. There are still quite a few factories, but it's much cheaper to outsource the labor to foreign countries. The American standard of living is MUCH higher than the countries we outsource it to. The workers who origionally did the work here in America demanded more money, the companies saw a cheaper means to produce their products, and took it.

    • Re: Mercantilism

      The world has changed. Isolationists are an anachronism. You cannot revert to a system from the past despite any try. Besides, what makes you think mercantilism is better? What makes you think it will bring more benefit?
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      I was talking to the person who started the thread.
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      jnifw3nloi wrote:

      What nonesense. The US cannot produce its own goods. You have exported most of your industry. You rely every day on the products of the entire world and any attempt you make to dissolve those economic ties will bee very damaging. Also, the US cannot remain a superpower forever. Adopting an economically isolationist stance will only damage you further and will, if anything, increase US decline.


      While some industries have been notoriousely outsourced, others are still strong. Look up a chart of US exports for once. After all, if we're not producing anything, how then can we be exporting?

      Interestingly enough, Honda has begun to increase its number of car factories in the US. Only recently Boeing build a factory not far from where I live to produce parts for its new "Dreamliner".
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      Once again, your notorious lack of perception leads to a bad post. I said most, not all. The US does posses some industry. However, the industry that is needed to produce the day to day goods that are needed, clothes, foods and other materials have been outsourced. If the US cuts economis ties, it will soon find itself short of the neccesities. I doubt very much a dreamliner could replace shirts or pants.
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    • Re: Mercantilism

      Mercantilism would be stupid to attempt in this day and age. That's just asking for nuclear warfare to shoot down the world. If you want us to improve our economic situation, then socialism would be a better route to take.

      And clearly Europeans should be taking from our example, the strength in the euro totally supports the fact that our economic system is far superior to theirs. *note the sarcasm*
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