just a point for now, mormons aren't christian. Mormonism is a christian cult. Their beliefs are totally different from the general Christian belief.

Catholics reformed themselves, so the argument that Catholics are killers is old.

every church has a bad side, Anabaptist are a clear example of that.

I also highly doubt you really know how the Catholic church actually works. if your speaking of the pope as the one man you have to pray through to get to god, then your sadly mistaken, if your talking about a priest, then once again you are sadly mistaken. Catholics believe just like any other faith that you can talk to god by yourself, and you can have a relationship with god with yourself.

reconciliation is an old tradition in the church that is supposed to show that you yourself are truly sorry and this is how you show it. the Catholic church does not say that if you don't say 5 hail Mary's, and 5 Our Father's, then you wont be forgiven and you will go to hell. Catholics believe just like any other church that you can be forgiven by god by simply asking for forgiveness and truly being sorry. that's what the reconciliation was supposed to do in the first place, symbolize your sorrow for wronging God.

and with your view on the intolerance you say you see from the Catholic faith. I don't see the same, I've seen Catholics accept gays, I haven't seen any type of truly intolerant behavior from Catholics concerning gays. but I have seen some absolutely atrocious things from Baptist, or other fundamental christian churches, towards homosexuals that would make you cringe. the fundamental group of Christians in Kansas that go to the funerals of dead American soldiers and harass the mourning families, the baptist nuts who go to confront homosexuals at gay pride parades or other types of places homosexuals congregate.

the MAIN difference between Catholicism and Fundamental Christianity is the fact that Catholics don't believe everything in the bible is true. this is why I feel Catholicism is one of the few rational faiths in this world. they don't believe Jonah really got swallowed by a whale, but that it was a story to teach people they can't run from god. while a Baptist would fight you tooth and nail to convince you that Jonah was in fact swallowed by a whale, and did sit inside of the whale for the entirety of a three day period.

A baptist will also tell you that when God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac, that he was testing his faith, the argument with this is if god is all knowing, why would he need to test Abraham in the first place. A baptist will usually say God did this to show Abraham how faithful he really was, but anyone with an ounce of logic knows that if Abraham is already willing to commit the act, he probably is already well aware of his trust and faith in God.

now the Catholic faith will teach you to look at it Metaphorically, not Literally. the story could be true or false, its not important either way, its important you understand the message, that if you trust and believe in god, if you follow God, then everything will be alright, Abraham did this, therefore he didn't have to give up something he truly loved and had waited so long to receive.

That is the only true difference between Catholicism and every other faith of Christianity that follows the Bible blindly as if it was a history book, a history book of the world that also fails to mention Dinosaurs, but no biggie right?

I don't even believe in God, I don't even go to church, but your views on Catholicism are ignorant, not stupid, just ignorant, at least know what the true differences are before you make such a bold claim.

Ammon wrote:

I guess they are if you look at it the right way. However, they follow Jesus' teachings as the basis for their beliefs, which does make them no less Christian than a Catholic.

okay, they might follow teachings of Jesus as a basis of their beliefs, but they also follow their own, the book of mormon. and some of their beliefs are not in line with the bible. one example is that they believe that before we were born into this earth, we pre-existed as spirit children. they also believe that there is more than one God and that we all have the ability to be like God or something.

so it is unlike christianity and catholicism because their beliefs, though some of it follows Jesus' teaching, has meandered away from it as well...quite a bit.

and i dont know all that much about the catholic faith, but i think some of their interpretation of the Bible is slightly different to that of other denominations.

Catholics follow all the rules precisely but forget the principles of Christianity, So yes they are.

I can't see anything wrong with it, I can see it quite nicely

Dazza©, dont listen to them, you pick the font you like

dude i really fucking resent you for saying that catholics are a bad example of christianity.

Practicing Catholics as a whole are pious, respectful, and forgiving people who sin every now and again.
You can't fucking generalize catholics as a whole as a bad example for christianty.
Some people only classify themselves catholic by name, they don't practice or repent for there sins. YOu are judging us by the small group of cathoics who don't follow the religion.
As a catholic i feel exploited whenever some fucking nut case preist touches a kid or someone kills someone using the name of God. Those people gave up there rights to be called christian and live in denial.

coolchrisVV2 wrote:

dude i really fucking resent you for saying that catholics are a bad example of christianity.

Practicing Catholics as a whole are pious, respectful, and forgiving people who sin every now and again.
You can't fucking generalize catholics as a whole as a bad example for christianty.
Some people only classify themselves catholic by name, they don't practice or repent for there sins. YOu are judging us by the small group of cathoics who don't follow the religion.
As a catholic i feel exploited whenever some fucking nut case preist touches a kid or someone kills someone using the name of God. Those people gave up there rights to be called christian and live in denial.

I don't care.
This is a debate, If you can't face other opinions, i suggest you don't come in.

Catholics take the sins / rules seriously.. but not the principles of Christianity.

For example, homosexuality.

Catholics believe that homosexuality is a "sin" and it is wrong, and shouldn't be allowed,

But Christianity is supposed to be about love =/
Doesn't make sense, Does this mean That God is denying love to people?
Because i'm pretty sure he said he doesn't do that.

This is just one of the many contradictions in that fiction book (Bible)

Okay, i'm not catholic, but i am Christian and whilst i belive that homosexuality is a sin, i'm not going to go and hate people for it. I have friends who are gay, i dont like the fact that they are gay and i dont agree with it, but i'm not going to hate them for it. It's like if your friend smokes, you dont like it, but you dont ditch them because of it.
Plus, a lot of christians think that homosexuality is a sin and is wrong, so it's not just catholics.

Yes, part of christianity is about love, and no, i dont think God is denying love to people. Maybe people are rejecting his love for them.

Listen up, real hard cause you might learn something now. The New testiment is mainly about Christs' teachings. It is the centrel element in Christianity. His main theme is we are Gods chidren and we will always be loved no matter what. Being a homo isnt a sin, its only immoral only, a temptation to sin. Taking a part in a homosexual act is sinful.

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God is denying love, he clearly states homosexuality as a sin, And he also said that we should "kill all fags". This isn't denying love?

coolchrisVV2 wrote:

Listen up, real hard cause you might learn something now. The New testiment is mainly about Christs' teachings. It is the centrel element in Christianity. His main theme is we are Gods chidren and we will always be loved no matter what. Being a homo isnt a sin, its only immoral only, a temptation to sin. Taking a part in a homosexual act is sinful.

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But God hates gay people.
He told people to "Kill all fags"

so many people think i was judging homosexuals in other blogs when i was trying to help them. and i've found where dinosaurs are in the bible just let me know if you want the scripture and i'll get it. but no i'm not judging homosexuals i want to help lead them to Jesus. which through him they can change. homosexuality is nothing more than a spirit. thats my personal beliefs on it.

I really want to read that passage where God said that. tell me where I can find it?

you read the 'god kill homosexual thing' from the old testament. that's when we didn't have Jesus Christ to fall back on. people had to pay for their own sins. and everyone sins we inherited sin from Adam and Eve.

Job 40:15 and read all through 41 it's believed to be a dinosaur it's explaining

Right you are trying to help homosexual people?
By wasting their time praying to a fictional character in a book?
I'm going to start praying to Shrek i think, do you think he can help?

And to CHris : Leviticus 20:13 clearly states "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

thanks for writing down the passage. seriously

Excuse me, but could you at least respect other people's opinions and beliefs. Look, i know you dont agree with them, but at least respect them without mocking them.