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    • LOST, I feel raped.

      What I'm intrested in, is whether the writers and producers actually thought that anyone would find that ending satisfying. Did they seriously just end the show ignoring a billion questions, and one confusing ass, sideways/purgatory storyline.

      Too much slow-motion corny (say what you will) music, not enough answers.

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      The show LOST was not made to answer questions. It was made to add suspense on so that things wouldn't be solved and you watched hoping that they would be. It ended not to answer your questions but to carry on the creativity. The fact that those could interpret things happening in different ways that they were satisfied with. It's satisfying everyone. Except those twats that believe answers are the only thing that's important.
      Sometimes the questions and the thought process is just as important, if not even more.
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      I couldn't imagine the series ending any other way, at least not without coming out completely over the top and ridiculous. This ending was perfect. It may not have explained every fucking detail to you, but I think the ending explained enough. We aren't meant to understand the mechanics of whatcomes after death anyways.
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      schmedes2 wrote:

      lol @ everyone telling the OP that he's dumb for not being fulfilled

      I was disappointed that they didn't explain the island and other mysteries, but oh well

      Give me a quote of where we called him dumb, please? No one was jumping down his throat, we were just sharing our opinions.
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      schmedes2 wrote:

      lol @ everyone telling the OP that he's dumb for not being fulfilled

      I was disappointed that they didn't explain the island and other mysteries, but oh well


      They only spent 6 seasons explaining "The Island"... lol


      I don't understand why people can't interpret things by themselves instead of needing their hands held all the way through. In reality by leaving some things unexplained... or mysterious rather, they've made the show immortal which isn't something many shows can do.

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      schmedes2 wrote:

      lol @ everyone telling the OP that he's dumb for not being fulfilled

      I was disappointed that they didn't explain the island and other mysteries, but oh well



      jacob explained the ending in detail a few episodes back,pay attention.

      honestly just to satisfy all of the people that didnt bother paying attention or are just not capable of understanding the ending they should just get the actor who played ben to just sit down in a big red leather chair and read off a list while condicendingly explaining all the shit that was explained over the series that if people payed attention they would understand.

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      I think some of the things in the series were meant to be open to interperetation, to sit there and spoon feed everything to the audience takes a LOT away from a show or movie. Film is an art form. If you were given a complete analysis for an art piece(as in every little bit of detail in it), don't you think that would take away from the emotional expression?

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      Everything that was really necessary to explain, was explained in the series. You just have to pay attention to detail.
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      WHERE THE FUCK WAS NIKKI AND PAULO!?! How could they just ignore my favourite characters!? Where was Walt? What happened to Aaron, being evil? Who built the contraption inside the cave of light. What happened to the "Invincible" Jacob and Smoke Monster, when Juliet detonated the Nuke?? Who built the Statue, and why the fuck did it have four toes?! Why did Sun not go back to 1977 with Jack and the others? How did that Lighthouse magical mirror thing work? Why did a bird scream Hurley's name? Why does the island heal some people?! What the hell is the sickness/infection that the french chick claimed killed everyone from her boat?! Why do babies and their mothers die while going through pregnancy?? Why was Desmond special, what gave him his ability?? What are the rules, ben referred to, after Widmore apparently "broke the rules" when he killed his daughter? On that subject, is Ben going to kill Penny since he escaped the island? Why the hell can Miles talk to dead people?? What the fuck happened to the Russian dude, that kept coming back to life, after he blew the window with that grenade? Why was the lottery number unlucky/cursed for Hurley??? Why did Locke go mute for ages after the Hatch explosion? What the bloody hell is Vincent, and if he is just a dog... What is his significance???


      the smoke monster wrote:

      Lost is a character driven show, who gives a fuck about answered? What did you want answered anyways? Nothing important to the characters remained unsolved.


      WTF? No. Lost could not be anymore less of a character driven show. It is not a character-driven show. It is a show, that has characters! But the characters do not "drive" the show, except in the sense that they do things that help advance the plot. Because it is a "plot-driven" show! Lost is a show that is interesting because it has an interesting plot. Frankly, most of the characters suck! Especially Kate. And Jack. And Sawyer. And, really, all of them, except for Ben.

      So what we got was a show with an engaging, mysterious plot, that was constantly being sabotaged by fool writers who thought that what the audience really wanted was, like, a love triangle. A love square! "Yes, Mr. Cuse, I don't give a fuck about the donkey wheel. What I really am after is the answer behind the mystery of Jack's hideous tattoo."

      About the music thing. Don't really give a shit if you like it. I find it corny/cheesy/repetitive/annoying as fuck. Especially when 15 minutes of each episode is take up by slow motion scenes that just drag on and on!

      If I wanted to interpret the show myself, then I wouldn't have watched the show for 6 years, as the writers promised over and over that they will eventually answer everything. They got themselves in too deep. So the next time I want to interpret things myself... I'll write a frickin' book, M'kay?

      Also, I don't care for understanding the mechanics of what comes after death. It's not that, that I'm whining about. It's lame ass cop out ending they had in the first place. Obviously Lost is it's own worst enemy, and it's impossible to cater for everybody. But the end of Lost hasn't come as a surprise to the writers! ABC didn't cut the show. The Writers even claimed they knew exactly how they were going to end the show way back in season 2. If they didn't know how to answer the fundamental questions that they just ignored, like Walt. Then don't ask them in the first place. Give the audience closure, we damn well fucking deserve it. Well, I do.

      Batgirl. Although I agree with you, that the writers never intended to answer the questions that they presented. Because they are only interested in money. The rest of what you said I don't agree with. Answers are only important to the twats? Yes because a PLOT DRIVEN show, needs not to answer the plot that has the fans following for years. People didn't tune into watch lost every week, so they could revel over if Kate is going to pick Sawyer or Jack. Nor for the reason, that they wanted yet another question rammed down their throats. It was to find out, what the fuck island is. What the hell is the smoke monster. That's right, everybody wants answers.

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      In a good story, characters make the plot.. not the other way around. I took an entire course on the fundamentals of writings and good story making. The plot was certainly shaped by the characters. So to say it wasn't a character driven show is absolutely ridiculous.

      The issue with people now-a-days is that they have to the answers just given to them, if you are too lazy to figure it out yourself, then I am sorry and I can understand why you didn't like the show. However, to take time to make the answers to all your questions obvious is an absolute waste and takes away from the story itself. Everytime I see a movie or TV show make things completely obvious I find it to be a waste of precious film, and hinders the development of the plot.
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      Saradactyl wrote:

      In a good story, characters make the plot.. not the other way around. I took an entire course on the fundamentals of writings and good story making. The plot was certainly shaped by the characters. So to say it wasn't a character driven show is absolutely ridiculous.

      The issue with people now-a-days is that they have to the answers just given to them, if you are too lazy to figure it out yourself, then I am sorry and I can understand why you didn't like the show. However, to take time to make the answers to all your questions obvious is an absolute waste and takes away from the story itself. Everytime I see a movie or TV show make things completely obvious I find it to be a waste of precious film, and hinders the development of the plot.


      Characters make the plot? No. The actors obviously claim that they make the show, because they are obnoxious, and love to claim, it's all them. Maybe you personally like the show because you like the characters. But what drives the show is the lost mystery. Lost has all this online ARG's that appeal to the audience, and have been really fun to follow over the years. Does that feed off the characters? No. It's the mystery of lost that kept the fans wanting more.

      If you're such the expert on television, perhaps you should ask your course teacher about what he/she thinks. Because me and my 5 year Media a film Study course at Uni don't agree. Obviously you can't take the time to answer my questions. Because there are no answers. Of course i enjoyed theorizing over Lost, over the years. Me and my friends have wasted hundreds of hours discussing and arguing over the very subject. But no, we never get the satisfaction of finding out who was right. If you like never getting answers, you might as well just go along to a pub quiz and just listen to the questions then leave.

      There will be people that did like the ending, because that's the sort of thing they are into. But I feel cheated by the writers just because of all the empty promises from CC and DL. I listened to every podcast, watched every vodcast, time and time again people we were told the ending would blow us away. Well I'm sorry but the ending was boring and predictable. I'm sorry, I'm not one of the people that watch shows to be moved, and to cry about them. So for me and everyone like me, that watched the show for the mystery and wanting to know the answers. All six seasons is a giant waste of time.

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      it was a story about the characters about this group of castaways and how they were all damaged and alone when they came to the island and all sought for redemption and to find a purpose,a family. all of those things that you wanted answered jack had no significance to the show what so ever. if you want all of the answers spoon fed to you go watch dora the explorer. the writers did something amazing and they made an intelligent and captivating story of characters and religion. it was a work of art and all great art pieces are left up to you to decide how you feel about them.

      btw sarah the fact that i didnt know you were into lost shocks me

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      Mr Jack wrote:

      Characters make the plot? No. The actors obviously claim that they make the show, because they are obnoxious, and love to claim, it's all them. Maybe you personally like the show because you like the characters. But what drives the show is the lost mystery. Lost has all this online ARG's that appeal to the audience, and have been really fun to follow over the years. Does that feed off the characters? No. It's the mystery of lost that kept the fans wanting more.

      If you're such the expert on television, perhaps you should ask your course teacher about what he/she thinks. Because me and my 5 year Media a film Study course at Uni don't agree. Obviously you can't take the time to answer my questions. Because there are no answers. Of course i enjoyed theorizing over Lost, over the years. Me and my friends have wasted hundreds of hours discussing and arguing over the very subject. But no, we never get the satisfaction of finding out who was right. If you like never getting answers, you might as well just go along to a pub quiz and just listen to the questions then leave.

      There will be people that did like the ending, because that's the sort of thing they are into. But I feel cheated by the writers just because of all the empty promises from CC and DL. I listened to every podcast, watched every vodcast, time and time again people we were told the ending would blow us away. Well I'm sorry but the ending was boring and predictable. I'm sorry, I'm not one of the people that watch shows to be moved, and to cry about them. So for me and everyone like me, that watched the show for the mystery and wanting to know the answers. All six seasons is a giant waste of time.



      There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to start....


      First things first, the actors are not the characters they just portray them... I don't see how them saying they think the characters make the show is obnoxious at all.... and you think because your teacher didn't like it that makes it a fact that it was bad? If you actually listened to the Darlton podcasts they've said 100000 times that they're only answering the questions THAT MATTER TO THE CHARACTERS. I would respect you having a different opinion if you didn't get all your facts wrong.

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      Mr Jack wrote:

      Characters make the plot? No. The actors obviously claim that they make the show, because they are obnoxious, and love to claim, it's all them. Maybe you personally like the show because you like the characters. But what drives the show is the lost mystery. Lost has all this online ARG's that appeal to the audience, and have been really fun to follow over the years. Does that feed off the characters? No. It's the mystery of lost that kept the fans wanting more.

      If you're such the expert on television, perhaps you should ask your course teacher about what he/she thinks. Because me and my 5 year Media a film Study course at Uni don't agree. Obviously you can't take the time to answer my questions. Because there are no answers. Of course i enjoyed theorizing over Lost, over the years. Me and my friends have wasted hundreds of hours discussing and arguing over the very subject. But no, we never get the satisfaction of finding out who was right. If you like never getting answers, you might as well just go along to a pub quiz and just listen to the questions then leave.

      There will be people that did like the ending, because that's the sort of thing they are into. But I feel cheated by the writers just because of all the empty promises from CC and DL. I listened to every podcast, watched every vodcast, time and time again people we were told the ending would blow us away. Well I'm sorry but the ending was boring and predictable. I'm sorry, I'm not one of the people that watch shows to be moved, and to cry about them. So for me and everyone like me, that watched the show for the mystery and wanting to know the answers. All six seasons is a giant waste of time.

      You obviously are not a writer, are you? In almost every well-known, famous, good story the writer actually creates its characters FIRST and the story is shaped by the characters themselves. Yes there is an initial idea of what the basic plot and setting is going to be, but the characters themselves are what shape the plot and their decisions are what leads to the conflicts and action of the story. Have you ever read "The Writer's Journey" by Christopher Vogler.. or are you familiar with any of Joseph Campbell's ideas? If not, I would suggest you do so before trying to debate me on this subject.

      I can also tell that you are most likely not a fan of philosophy either. You aren't always going to have answers handed to you, you have to search for them yourself. Find your own answers and meanings for things. The problem now-a-days is people are so used to having everything fucking spoon fed to them that they don't use the critical thinking skills we as human beings are blessed with.

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      Oh and to think that my argument has any basis on the actors is quite an insult. I could give less of a fuck about celebrities. I know nothing about mainstream media, or really not that much. The actors play the characters, sure.. but they really aren't the characters themselves.. and really don't have any effect on the story, they help portray the characters in the ways that the writer wanted them to.. but beyond that they really have no effect on the story itself.

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      jordan132 wrote:


      btw sarah the fact that i didnt know you were into lost shocks me

      This happened quite recently, actually. I tried to avoid the series, but when I was informed more about what it was about I was interested.
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      i feel as if i should almost not post because kris and sarah seem to have said it all. but like the writers said most of the tv shows and movies these days are so dumbed down so that everyone can understand them it takes away a lot of the entertainment as a story. they created the show about the characters that is why every episode is centered on one specific character,and why most of the episodes began with the opening of one of the characters eyes. half of the show all of the flash backs,flash forwards and such were all devoted to exploring the characters,their histories and motivations. the writers created a show that THEY wanted to watch,something that made you think and theorize so that people of different faiths,religions,opinions all would have their own interpretations of what they watched.

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      the smoke monster wrote:

      There's so much wrong with this I don't know where to start....


      First things first, the actors are not the characters they just portray them... I don't see how them saying they think the characters make the show is obnoxious at all.... and you think because your teacher didn't like it that makes it a fact that it was bad? If you actually listened to the Darlton podcasts they've said 100000 times that they're only answering the questions THAT MATTER TO THE CHARACTERS. I would respect you having a different opinion if you didn't get all your facts wrong.


      I never said the actors are the characters. But the actors have said in interviews that they feel it's a character driven show. That's because they play the characters, so they like to big themselves up. I didn't get ALL my facts wrong. From your POV it's a character driven show, because the characters is what keeps you interested. from my POV its a plot driven show. Because I enjoy the mystery of lost. But just because I followed the mystery and enjoy theorizing over it does not mean I never want to know if my theories were correct. You go look at any online forum. (You say you left after a death unwittingly became spoiled) well 99% of the topics are not about how they feel the characters are dealing with a situation. All the fans talk about, and discuss their theories. That is why if you go over there, you will see all the other fans like me.

      If you choose to accept not knowing about the fate of the characters, or the reasons behind so much of the unanswered lost mythology. Then IMO you're watching it for the wrong reasons. What I've been saying this whole time, is I don't agree on what the writers decided. Even if that decision is only answering what matters to the characters. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. You can complain that my complaining is unjustified because of whatever reason, but not everyone likes sappy endings. We want awesome. We were promised awesome. We didn't get awesome.

      Saradactyl wrote:

      You obviously are not a writer, are you? In almost every well-known, famous, good story the writer actually creates its characters FIRST and the story is shaped by the characters themselves. Yes there is an initial idea of what the basic plot and setting is going to be, but the characters themselves are what shape the plot and their decisions are what leads to the conflicts and action of the story. Have you ever read "The Writer's Journey" by Christopher Vogler.. or are you familiar with any of Joseph Campbell's ideas? If not, I would suggest you do so before trying to debate me on this subject.

      I can also tell that you are most likely not a fan of philosophy either. You aren't always going to have answers handed to you, you have to search for them yourself. Find your own answers and meanings for things. The problem now-a-days is people are so used to having everything fucking spoon fed to them that they don't use the critical thinking skills we as human beings are blessed with.


      I'm not trying to be a philosopher, I'm just watching a TV show. A TV show that wasn't as good as how I think it should have been. The Finale was very character driven, I could see that. I'm just disappointed that they just ignored the mythological side of Lost. Only answering what the writers felt forced to. The first few seasons were the best. But I think that is only because we were left with more twists, more surprises, and yes, more questions. As soon as they tried to answer them, the show turned just like Sayid's accent. I don't want the show "fucking spoon fed" to me. Ergh, and that just annoys me, that people think that a show or movie is only good if it leaves the audience left guessing. How would you like to invest all this time to watch a movie, and just when it's getting good, they cut the power and tell you to guess the rest! Of course that is ridiculous, because you want to know what happened. It's fucking TV entertainment. It's hardly Critical Thinking 101. Maybe I don't want to watch TV and then have to worry about critically analysing it for the rest of my life with no hope of ever knowing for sure. I have enough things to worry about. Sometimes, I just want to watch TV, and enjoy it.

      You can go on thinking the show is the best thing ever. I will choose to be left hungry for more. Because nobody is spoon feeding me.

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      jordan132 wrote:

      i feel as if i should almost not post because kris and sarah seem to have said it all. but like the writers said most of the tv shows and movies these days are so dumbed down so that everyone can understand them it takes away a lot of the entertainment as a story. they created the show about the characters that is why every episode is centered on one specific character,and why most of the episodes began with the opening of one of the characters eyes. half of the show all of the flash backs,flash forwards and such were all devoted to exploring the characters,their histories and motivations. the writers created a show that THEY wanted to watch,something that made you think and theorize so that people of different faiths,religions,opinions all would have their own interpretations of what they watched.


      I am tired of discussing this. But I will say this; I enjoyed the more intelligent and complicated plot more than anyone. That is why, when people ask me why would I watch such a "bad show as Lost." I would assure them they only think it's bad because they don't understand it, and I love how much it make the viewer think. But I don't want to be going at it forever. The viewer should have their investment returned. I have certainly thought enough about the questions of Lost to last a life-time. I just wanted answers, like most other people.

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      Mr Jack wrote:


      I'm not trying to be a philosopher, I'm just watching a TV show. A TV show that wasn't as good as how I think it should have been. The Finale was very character driven, I could see that. I'm just disappointed that they just ignored the mythological side of Lost. Only answering what the writers felt forced to. The first few seasons were the best. But I think that is only because we were left with more twists, more surprises, and yes, more questions. As soon as they tried to answer them, the show turned just like Sayid's accent. I don't want the show "fucking spoon fed" to me. Ergh, and that just annoys me, that people think that a show or movie is only good if it leaves the audience left guessing. How would you like to invest all this time to watch a movie, and just when it's getting good, they cut the power and tell you to guess the rest! Of course that is ridiculous, because you want to know what happened. It's fucking TV entertainment. It's hardly Critical Thinking 101. Maybe I don't want to watch TV and then have to worry about critically analysing it for the rest of my life with no hope of ever knowing for sure. I have enough things to worry about. Sometimes, I just want to watch TV, and enjoy it.

      You can go on thinking the show is the best thing ever. I will choose to be left hungry for more. Because nobody is spoon feeding me.

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      I am tired of discussing this. But I will say this; I enjoyed the more intelligent and complicated plot more than anyone. That is why, when people ask me why would I watch such a "bad show as Lost." I would assure them they only think it's bad because they don't understand it, and I love how much it make the viewer think. But I don't want to be going at it forever. The viewer should have their investment returned. I have certainly thought enough about the questions of Lost to last a life-time. I just wanted answers, like most other people.

      You say you enjoy the complicated plot, yet you say you don't want to have to think critically about it. That is quite the contradiction, sir. All I am going to say is that just because the answers aren't made completely obvious or labeled "ANSWER:" doesn't mean that the answers are not present. Sometimes you have to search for the answer yourself.
      The show was good, but I don't think it was the best show ever. Don't assume that just because I am debating with you means that I am a hardcore Lost fan. I am really not. Also, whenever I use "fuck" in a sentence it doesn't mean that I have lost my temper.. in fact.. I am just debating.. no emotions present. I am not trying to attack you, darling.
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      Mr Jack wrote:

      I never said the actors are the characters. But the actors have said in interviews that they feel it's a character driven show. That's because they play the characters, so they like to big themselves up. I didn't get ALL my facts wrong. From your POV it's a character driven show, because the characters is what keeps you interested. from my POV its a plot driven show. Because I enjoy the mystery of lost. But just because I followed the mystery and enjoy theorizing over it does not mean I never want to know if my theories were correct. You go look at any online forum. (You say you left after a death unwittingly became spoiled) well 99% of the topics are not about how they feel the characters are dealing with a situation. All the fans talk about, and discuss their theories. That is why if you go over there, you will see all the other fans like me.


      No, the actors don't usually say shit about how they feel about the show to avoid problems. Darlton have said themselves, many times the wrote it to be a character driven show. I don't care what other people think, I just enjoy the show the way it's written. Hell the first three seasons were about how the characters act with a new slate based on their past actions shown in flashbacks. Every episode revolved around a specific character. The last 3 seasons were a little more plot driven but still followed the same basic formula.


      I can't even think of anything significant they left unanswered.