pahern0317 wrote:
There are no mixed gender changing rooms where I live.
Girls in male showers
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kathyFL wrote:
pahern0317 wrote:
There are no mixed gender changing rooms where I live.
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xols wrote:
kathyFL wrote:
pahern0317 wrote:
There are no mixed gender changing rooms where I live.
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I've also not thought that "shared" looker rooms/showers were a thing, at least in the U.S. (I mean, sure, I've heard of nude beaches and the like, and figured there might be shared looker rooms/showers in some places in Europe, where they definitely seem to have different viewpoints on nudity than a lot of us Americans tend to have, but that's about it).
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Durango wrote:
I've also not thought that "shared" looker rooms/showers were a thing, at least in the U.S. (I mean, sure, I've heard of nude beaches and the like, and figured there might be shared looker rooms/showers in some places in Europe, where they definitely seem to have different viewpoints on nudity than a lot of us Americans tend to have, but that's about it).
Some places may have co-ed nude sauna during certain hours, but this idea that all public high schools have co-ed locker rooms and showers is false. That doesn't exist in the Western world.
Nudist beaches is a different story, although some of them have separate showers, especially the ones which are 'clothing optional,' rather than 'nudity required.' -
xols wrote:
niknik wrote:
xols wrote:
@IsabeleMarie: Are you asking about the situation of a young cis girl going with her dad into a locker room, or the teenage trans-female issue in school locker rooms?
Oldest I was in a male shower area was 12 at a camp site, I really think that age is starting to push it but I get parents have heard scary stories or had bad experiences
While I agree 12 is getting a little old, I'd try to have some compassion for the father being understandably afraid of letting the girl go alone into the women's shower room.
I think if he and the girl do what they need to do and get out of there quickly, it's worth putting up with.
I’ve heard some personally that were just judgemental about what we wore or our bodies and some that were really creepy like what they’d like to do with us (sexually)
yeah on long road trips and camps it had been the rule a long time, usually just a quick shower with my brother, sometimes dad but with him less as I got older, was just weird and I know he felt judged
It’s not as big a deal as people make it, showering together but it’s sad that people should have to feel it’s unsafe too -
niknik wrote:
xols wrote:
niknik wrote:
xols wrote:
@IsabeleMarie: Are you asking about the situation of a young cis girl going with her dad into a locker room, or the teenage trans-female issue in school locker rooms?
I think if he and the girl do what they need to do and get out of there quickly, it's worth putting up with.
yeah on long road trips and camps it had been the rule a long time, usually just a quick shower with my brother, sometimes dad but with him less as I got older, was just weird and I know he felt judged
It’s not as big a deal as people make it, showering together but it’s sad that people should have to feel it’s unsafe too
It seems there is a lot more tolerance for women being inappropriate than men. I'm sure, while men might say similar things to boys (I haven't heard that directly), they would never say it in front of others. Women do.
I agree, a shower is innocent, none the less, that's not comfortable for a lot of people and they shouldn't be forced into it because it's unsafe for girls to go alone into the female locker room.
That said, people can shower in their bathing suit, then mostly dry off and discretely change out of their 'costume,' as those across the pond call it.
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xols wrote:
niknik wrote:
xols wrote:
niknik wrote:
xols wrote:
@IsabeleMarie: Are you asking about the situation of a young cis girl going with her dad into a locker room, or the teenage trans-female issue in school locker rooms?
yeah on long road trips and camps it had been the rule a long time, usually just a quick shower with my brother, sometimes dad but with him less as I got older, was just weird and I know he felt judged
It’s not as big a deal as people make it, showering together but it’s sad that people should have to feel it’s unsafe too
I agree, a shower is innocent, none the less, that's not comfortable for a lot of people and they shouldn't be forced into it because it's unsafe for girls to go alone into the female locker room.
That said, people can shower in their bathing suit, then mostly dry off and discretely change out of their 'costume,' as those across the pond call it.
Same for the guys, shower then change out of the trunks.
I try ink it’s unfairly skewed against males because they can do more obvious damage
People ignite what it does to your head -
Never heard of girls in boys showers where I live but I wouldn't have a problem with it
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Sometimes dads will bring their daughters in the male locker room at our pool.
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The only girls we ever have in the public pool changing rooms are young girls with their dads.
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pahern0317 wrote:
The only girls we ever have in the public pool changing rooms are young girls with their dads.
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wow 10 to 12 is too old. I bet a 12 year old girl would be embarrassed at being naked in front of all the boys. I know I would be embarrassed.
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pahern0317 wrote:
wow 10 to 12 is too old. I bet a 12 year old girl would be embarrassed at being naked in front of all the boys. I know I would be embarrassed.
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I went through the mens shower when I was too young to go by myself, and my mom wasn't with us. No big deal.
If it was common shower today, I wouldn't have problem either even if I was alone and a number of guys.
The benefits of a safe country."Comedy is like sex. If they haven't made a noise in a while, change what you're doing" - Sara Pascoe -
I think it is a good idea safety wise, for dads to do that. But some of us can be a little shy lol
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I've seen girls up to 10 or 11 in the male showers with their dads.
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I've wondered about that before too, after seeing some 10-12 year old girls in the mens locker room. How do girls feel about it? Have mothers brought their sons in with them?
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Benny973 wrote:
I've wondered about that before too, after seeing some 10-12 year old girls in the mens locker room. How do girls feel about it? Have mothers brought their sons in with them?
I think girls and boys in the age 10-12 must be quite shy and interested at the same time. I do think they shoud be able to take care of themselves on their own. That's too old to need mommy or daddy.
When we are talking about communal showers, I think the blend can be made at all ages."Comedy is like sex. If they haven't made a noise in a while, change what you're doing" - Sara Pascoe -
Thanks for the response. I agree that by 10 to 12 I don't think I needed any help changing lol. But I think some of it is safety. They maybe think they need to protect them or something, idk. All I know is I have seen it, and thankfully have never had the problem of a classmate being brought into the locker room. My brother has though
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