Elections and Voting

    • Does the fact that Trump says (and by removing the documents has) declassified the documents. Mean any top secret document held by anyone be declared by them declassified. As there's no record apart for in his mind.

      More than criminal he's set a precedence of instead of there being documentation, in theory every document now has to be proved not to be declassified by him. Risking National security

      It also give a bad impression to the world (as a president is your representative) that the USA does not value rules and security. Would you now share your countries secrets if they could end up unsecured in a house (or thrown out somewhere)?

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      "If you try to follow fashion you'll always be chasing, and probably never catch it. If you be yourself and make your own style, fashion might just bump into you one day."

    • BJade wrote:

      Does the fact that Trump says (and by removing the documents has) declassified the documents. Mean any top secret document held by anyone be declared by them declassified. As there's no record apart for in his mind.

      More than criminal he's set a precedence of instead of there being documentation, in theory every document now has to be proved not to be declassified by him. Risking National security

      It also give a bad impression to the world (as a president is your representative) that the USA does not value rules and security. Would you now share your countries secrets if they could end up unsecured in a house (or thrown out somewhere)?
      The charges that Trump faces (violation of the espionage act, improper handling of federal records and obstruction of justice) don't take into account whether he declassified them or not. They're all chargeable offenses regardless of classification. All bring recommended prison terms. But you're right, it gives a really bad impression to the world.
      And interestingly enough, NARA announced today that there are still many missing documents, including the letter from Kim Jong-un. Gee, I wonder where that could be?

    • BJade wrote:

      Does the fact that Trump says (and by removing the documents has) declassified the documents. Mean any top secret document held by anyone be declared by them declassified. As there's no record apart for in his mind.

      More than criminal he's set a precedence of instead of there being documentation, in theory every document now has to be proved not to be declassified by him. Risking National security

      It also give a bad impression to the world (as a president is your representative) that the USA does not value rules and security. Would you now share your countries secrets if they could end up unsecured in a house (or thrown out somewhere)?
      I believe there is a formal process to unclassify a document, but not aware of the details.
      However once a document is, it is now available to the media and public with no restrictions, a point that isn't mentioned very often. You only need to request a copy

    • lliam wrote:

      in case the rat, uhmm, red wave floods democracy history turning it into democrazy which makes 2024 elections the last democracy elections for a longterm. Behind that point, Canadians and Mexicans will build walls at their boarders to the United States of Authoritariania.
      The most notorious "election deniers" in the USA are Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump. What both of them have in common is they denied the results of the presidential elections that they both lost (2016 & 2020). Democracy in the USA doesn't depend on political parties, race, gender or other considerations. It depends on people going to the polls and voting in fair and honest elections. Once the people have spoken and their votes are counted, that's when democracy will prevail.

      BTW...I don't think the Canadian or Mexican government would ever build a "wall" to prevent Americans from fleeing the USA by the millions. It's the other way around. Millions and millions of people are flooding across our border with Mexico illegally. A lot of migrants seem to want to get to the United States of Authoritaria by any and all means possible. If the USA is really that bad, why would anyone want to come here?

      BJade wrote:

      that who ever wins they'll be controlled by money and power so what difference does it make ;(
      Vivimus Volare, Volamus Vivere,

    • D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again

    • Kyle07 wrote:

      D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again
      :lol: what fairytale land do you live in??

    • BlackParadePixie wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again
      :lol: what fairytale land do you live in??
      I guess we’ll see :)

      They’re the only one with actual plans other than the right wingers agendas like banning abortion
      Don’t you want a party that actually considers womens rights and the environment and making big business etc pay their fair share instead of the middle class getting it in the butt?

    • BlackParadePixie wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again
      :lol: what fairytale land do you live in??
      I was gonna ask the same thing. Maybe Pelosi's shithole San Francisco district or what ever they are called in the United States. Dude needs to stop watching CNN.

    • Kyle07 wrote:

      BlackParadePixie wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again
      :lol: what fairytale land do you live in??
      I guess we’ll see :)
      They’re the only one with actual plans other than the right wingers agendas like banning abortion
      Don’t you want a party that actually considers womens rights and the environment and making big business etc pay their fair share instead of the middle class getting it in the butt?
      You do realize that the abortion issue was transferred to the State level right? As for the middle class comment, many of the policies of Biden are driving inflation. People expect businesses to eat their costs when the very nature of business is to make profit. With gas prices so high, that adds to overhead which is ALWAYS passed on the the consumer. What would your solution be to deal with that? More taxes? Guess who that's passed on to. Do you expect the government to prevent business from doing what they do? Slippery slope my friend! Very slippery slope.

      The whole problem with the Government as a whole is that both sides have separated themselves by going further and further to the poles and becoming more and more radical in their approaches. Its a complete joke. Both sides are stupid and behave poorly and quite frankly SUCK !!!!

    • collin13 wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      BlackParadePixie wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again
      :lol: what fairytale land do you live in??
      I guess we’ll see :) They’re the only one with actual plans other than the right wingers agendas like banning abortion
      Don’t you want a party that actually considers womens rights and the environment and making big business etc pay their fair share instead of the middle class getting it in the butt?
      You do realize that the abortion issue was transferred to the State level right? As for the middle class comment, many of the policies of Biden are driving inflation. People expect businesses to eat their costs when the very nature of business is to make profit. With gas prices so high, that adds to overhead which is ALWAYS passed on the the consumer. What would your solution be to deal with that? More taxes? Guess who that's passed on to. Do you expect the government to prevent business from doing what they do? Slippery slope my friend! Very slippery slope.
      The whole problem with the Government as a whole is that both sides have separated themselves by going further and further to the poles and becoming more and more radical in their approaches. Its a complete joke. Both sides are stupid and behave poorly and quite frankly SUCK !!!!
      Lol that all sounds straight out of Fox News
      Abortion is state level and that needs to change because it’s wrong and Republicans want an outright national ban

      Bidens policies are superior, the Republicans have no plan to bring down inflation, they’re mostly responsible for it
      Under Trump the national debt increased drastically every year and Biden has already got it shrinking

      Cost of living prices are from gouging, oil companies are making such record profits they’re buying their stocks back - there is no excuse for what they’re charging at the pump

      Corporate profits are soaring, but they aren’t passing that on to customers or employees - Biden is doing what no one has had the guts to do and is trying to get stuff passed so they can be made to pay their fair share

      the USA and the world can’t afford another Trump admin. Hopefully he’s in handcuffs soon

      all political parties suck sure, the republicans just suck more with their constant lies

      You know the republicans are worse because they’re the party the neo nazis and the kkk have exclusively voted for the past half century or so

    • Kyle07 wrote:

      collin13 wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      BlackParadePixie wrote:

      Kyle07 wrote:

      D. Falcon_11 wrote:

      November 8, 2022 is national election day in USA. Pollsters and "wonk" pundits are predicting a "Red Wave" will put the Republicans in control of the Senate and House.

      What are your prediction? Red Wave or Blue Wave?
      It’s looking more like blue not red, but only if people get out and vote and the Republicans don’t try steal it again
      :lol: what fairytale land do you live in??
      I guess we’ll see :) They’re the only one with actual plans other than the right wingers agendas like banning abortionDon’t you want a party that actually considers womens rights and the environment and making big business etc pay their fair share instead of the middle class getting it in the butt?
      You do realize that the abortion issue was transferred to the State level right? As for the middle class comment, many of the policies of Biden are driving inflation. People expect businesses to eat their costs when the very nature of business is to make profit. With gas prices so high, that adds to overhead which is ALWAYS passed on the the consumer. What would your solution be to deal with that? More taxes? Guess who that's passed on to. Do you expect the government to prevent business from doing what they do? Slippery slope my friend! Very slippery slope.The whole problem with the Government as a whole is that both sides have separated themselves by going further and further to the poles and becoming more and more radical in their approaches. Its a complete joke. Both sides are stupid and behave poorly and quite frankly SUCK !!!!
      Lol that all sounds straight out of Fox NewsAbortion is state level and that needs to change because it’s wrong and Republicans want an outright national ban

      Bidens policies are superior, the Republicans have no plan to bring down inflation, they’re mostly responsible for it
      Under Trump the national debt increased drastically every year and Biden has already got it shrinking

      Cost of living prices are from gouging, oil companies are making such record profits they’re buying their stocks back - there is no excuse for what they’re charging at the pump

      Corporate profits are soaring, but they aren’t passing that on to customers or employees - Biden is doing what no one has had the guts to do and is trying to get stuff passed so they can be made to pay their fair share

      the USA and the world can’t afford another Trump admin. Hopefully he’s in handcuffs soon

      all political parties suck sure, the republicans just suck more with their constant lies

      You know the republicans are worse because they’re the party the neo nazis and the kkk have exclusively voted for the past half century or so
      Don't know the first thing about Fox news. I'm sure it is as ridiculous as what ever news source you get your fairy tale information from but that's what makes the world go round. That said, I won't debate with someone who jumps right to racism and uses that as a basis of their argument. Talk later about something else, perhaps who is responsible for the recession that we are all about to enter. Hope your parents make good money and have good solid jobs and that you don't suffer as a result because where I live, people are already suffering and it is really shitty and it is not because of the Russians (I said that because I'm sure that will be your excuse).