just been drawing trying to design an updated version of my family crest to get tattooed on my back

Still need to do the shield which will have 3 lions in it. just unsure what i want the lions to look like

yer it would be very painful i reckon.... but it would be very much worth it

first finished design

yer good points, i also feel like the shield needs more detail too.... might get a diff design of a lion

very much so.... i probs won't get it done till my 20th b'day which is in October... i might do the shield plain at the start and over the years ill add onto it? who knows....i can never make up my mind

How could you not know that .... biggest bogan out.... but what made you think that ?