The best argument for believing in god is "I'm weak."
The existence of God is not a predicate
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Hitopopamus wrote:
The best argument for believing in god is "I'm weak."
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You'll have a hard time slapping that argument on everyone that believes in God, such as a deist. I could also turn right around that say the best argument for not believing in God is "I am weak," since some atheists are rather dismayed at the idea of a higher being watching over them.
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Hitopopamus wrote:
The best argument for believing in god is "I'm weak."
I find myself unable to grasp your logic. What about believing in a god makes them weak? Perhaps they just believe in a god.[CENTER][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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And what is your opinion of the other faiths? What makes them above Christianity? Buddhists and Hindus have warred as well, just not so much in recent times.
Sri Lanka, for example, is a modern Buddhist terror state.[CENTER][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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The same could be said for any belief. People are capable of being brainwashed by practically any ideology, whether it be religion, politics, culture, etc.Poliwag wrote:
Look, as Tim Minchin says, Just because it's ancient and tenacious it doesn't mean it's worthy.
Christianity, well all 3 of the Abrahamic religions, have grasped on too long. If it wasn't for all the wars, and brain washing ect we would never have really heard about christianity. It should have been a passing movement that died out Centuries ago, yet we still find ourselves with it. Why?
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I was born Athiest, and I live in a Christian home. My parent's recently came to terms with my beleifs, which makes my life a lot easier.
Holy books tend to contridict each other and themselves. I think that most of the stories that were intended to teach lessons, perhapes shouldn't be taken so literally.
Some people need to beleive there's something more, and that's just fine. But it causes so much conflict, and terrorism. Recently, my boyfriend and I were told by a preist that we were evil, because we don't belive in God. Needless to say, I told him that was very Christian of him. . . I suppose even if there was no relgion people would still find reasons to hate each other.
Personal philosophy: "I beleive in God, only I spell it N-A-T-U-R-E."
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Religion, more often than not, is an excuse for conflict rather than a direct cause. If religion were to never have existed, you'd still have the same amount of violence and chaos seen today. Money, power, land, and resources all fuel war; leaders and government use religion merely to vindicate their thirst for power. There are certain conflicts that were a direct result from religious tension, such as the French Wars of Religion and the Crusades, but if you took religion out of history, other contentions would amount to the same hostility that occurred.
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Some people need to beleive there's something more, and that's just fine. But it causes so much conflict, and terrorism.
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Poliwag wrote:
I've done Philosophy for a year know, I've studied the major arguments for the existence of God, and frankly none of them work. What are your views on the christian theologies and the personified thing known as God?
In my opinion, the ontological argument is the worst of all the arguments, it's just so crammed full of christian logic it makes no sense at all. The fact that you describe something with certain qualities does not then mean it has to be real. It's retarded
God does not exist and i didn't have to take a year of philosophy to know that.
-Final Fear[CENTER][SIZE="2"]"Misdirection is the key to victory, never attack what your enemy defends, never behave as your enemy expects, and never reveal your true strengths, if knowledge is power, to be unknown is to be unconquerable." -Sun Tzu[/SIZE]
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Perhaps you could share some of your brilliant logic and enlighten us then? Considering you seem to know with absolute certainty that no deity exists.
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God does not exist and i didn't have to take a year of philosophy to know that.
-Final Fear
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LuklaAdvocate wrote:
Perhaps you could share some of your brilliant logic and enlighten us then? Considering you seem to know with absolute certainty that no deity exists.
Well, good sir, how could such deity exist?
-Final Fear[CENTER][SIZE="2"]"Misdirection is the key to victory, never attack what your enemy defends, never behave as your enemy expects, and never reveal your true strengths, if knowledge is power, to be unknown is to be unconquerable." -Sun Tzu[/SIZE]
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I never claimed that one exists. You explicitly stated, with absolute certainty, that God doesn't exist. I assume you have collaborating evidence to prove it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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There are many ways it could exist and it could so in a way which our brains can not understand.
I don't believe in god, however I'm not so arrogant to say that I know for a fact that he doesn't exist.[CENTER]R.I.P Captain Jack Sparrow, 13/3/09[/CENTER]
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Ok I gotta ask...what is with the sudden onslaught of Pokémon avatars and usernames?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Pokemon are awesome.[CENTER]R.I.P Captain Jack Sparrow, 13/3/09[/CENTER]
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[CENTER]You did it, beautiful.<3[/CENTER]
formspring.me/Asperitas <- Don't be a fgt. It makes you look bad.
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LuklaAdvocate wrote:
I never claimed that one exists. You explicitly stated, with absolute certainty, that God doesn't exist. I assume you have collaborating evidence to prove it.
My only evidence is that there is no evidence for such deity to exist. Yes, i know, not a fair argument. it could take an hour or more to compile all of the evidence and links i would need; not going to use such a massive amount of time to prove my point on an online forum. It's my belief that it is a fact that god does not exist, believe what you want, i believe i am right. Seems so ignorant to me that someone could believe in such garbage, although people are entitled to their beliefs.
-Final Fear[CENTER][SIZE="2"]"Misdirection is the key to victory, never attack what your enemy defends, never behave as your enemy expects, and never reveal your true strengths, if knowledge is power, to be unknown is to be unconquerable." -Sun Tzu[/SIZE]
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Final Fear wrote:
My only evidence is that there is no evidence for such deity to exist. Yes, i know, not a fair argument. it could take an hour or more to compile all of the evidence and links i would need; not going to use such a massive amount of time to prove my point on an online forum. It's my belief that it is a fact that god does not exist, believe what you want, i believe i am right. Seems so ignorant to me that someone could believe in such garbage, although people are entitled to their beliefs.
-Final Fear
God and science do exclude one another. There is no evidence that god does exist. there is no evidence that god not exist. Therefore god exists and does not exist equally. To conclude otherwise is to be ignorant of basic scientific principles.
[CENTER]The greatest thing you'll ever learnWithout sensibility no object would be given to us, without understanding no object would be thought. Thoughts without content are empty, intuitions without concepts are blind. ~Immanuel Kant, Critique of Pure Reason
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Zubat wrote:
There are many ways it could exist and it could so in a way which our brains can not understand.
I don't believe in god, however I'm not so arrogant to say that I know for a fact that he doesn't exist.
Where is heaven? How does our "soul", so to speak, travel to heaven? If it is so far out that it is beyond our sight, it would take millions or billions of years to get there, seeing as nothing can exceed the speed of light. I sit here for a good 10 minutes trying to put my thoughts into words and it just doesn't seem to happen. I am playing out a discussion in my head and it never seems to end, maybe you won't respond how i expect and the discussion could be ended soon.
-Final Fear
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DeaExMachina wrote:
God and science do exclude one another. There is no evidence that god does exist. there is no evidence that god not exist. Therefore god exists and does not exist equally. To conclude otherwise is to be ignorant of basic scientific principles.
How do you prove something not to exist? Can we assume that magic or unicorns exists and does not exist equally? There is no evidence to say that a unicorn isn't floating in space millions of light-years away.
Edit: Wow, the way you put it, anything could exist or could not exist. You can't say Pokemon don't exist, there is no evidence.
-Final Fear[CENTER][SIZE="2"]"Misdirection is the key to victory, never attack what your enemy defends, never behave as your enemy expects, and never reveal your true strengths, if knowledge is power, to be unknown is to be unconquerable." -Sun Tzu[/SIZE]
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Final Fear wrote:
Where is heaven? How does our "soul", so to speak, travel to heaven? If it is so far out that it is beyond our sight, it would take millions or billions of years to get there, seeing as nothing can exceed the speed of light. I sit here for a good 10 minutes trying to put my thoughts into words and it just doesn't seem to happen. I am playing out a discussion in my head and it never seems to end, maybe you won't respond how i expect and the discussion could be ended soon.
Like I said, it may be that any explanations are beyond the comprehension of the human brain.
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Final Fear wrote:
How do you prove something not to exist? Can we assume that magic or unicorns exists and does not exist equally? There is no evidence to say that a unicorn isn't floating in space millions of light-years away.
I believe in both unicorns and magic.[CENTER]R.I.P Captain Jack Sparrow, 13/3/09[/CENTER]
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